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  1. #21
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrYaah View Post
    for A1 I just do dots on the two bosses, focusing my heavyshots on whichever one the drg is on.

    For A3 I've only done like 2 runs on bard not including my very first clear, so I just dont think I've got a good run. As for A4 I think its really rng and depends on if I get sucked up or not. Its a pretty huge dps loss to get sucked up (se plz). These samplesizes are still really small and even on consistent fights you generally see a pretty large range between the good and bad parses.

    Also on that last A3 parse they pulled when I was afk and I died halfway through the fight sooooooo. yeah.
    A4 is pretty annoying for me because for the 3 runs I have done I am ALWAYS the damn DPS that gets sucked inside all the time :/

    A3 can be a little chaotic with the +/- and I noticed the adds phase puts a dent to the DPS numbers, prob need more familiarization to optimize output. I think A3 should be capable of 900+ upwards too, just saw an A3 parse where the BRD did 895.
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  2. #22
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    Mr Yaah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    A4 is pretty annoying for me because for the 3 runs I have done I am ALWAYS the damn DPS that gets sucked inside all the time :/

    A3 can be a little chaotic with the +/- and I noticed the adds phase puts a dent to the DPS numbers, prob need more familiarization to optimize output. I think A3 should be capable of 900+ upwards too, just saw an A3 parse where the BRD did 895.
    Yea I managed to parse 895 A3 on mch already and I dont really feel like im a good mch or anything or that it has a particularly big advantage over bard in that fight.
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  3. #23
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrYaah View Post
    Yea I managed to parse 895 A3 on mch already and I dont really feel like im a good mch or anything or that it has a particularly big advantage over bard in that fight.
    I have both MCH/BRD too. I'm pretty bad at MCH but nonetheless I think MCH is a much more fluid job compared to BRD and MCH certainly have advantage in movement requirements.

    And I do feel that when given the same player with equal mastery of both MCH and BRD job, MCH should produce a slightly better DPS number.
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    try check this out.. this dude claim he can do 956 with ilvl 177 + hive bow
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZnpeVTbVGE
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  6. #25
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    Did some farming of A3/A4 last night.

    Getting ~790 parses on A3 with no DRG. 6:50-7:00 encounter time.
    849 was my best on A4, no DRG, 6m.
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  7. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    try check this out.. this dude claim he can do 956 with ilvl 177 + hive bow
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZnpeVTbVGE
    He has party and pot. Pretty average. I can break 900 now after 3 mins w/o party/pot/misery etc, not easy though. ( also 177 with hive bow )

    feels like sometimes when u reach the end of your cast , theres just so many things that need to be done zz.
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 07-11-2015 at 02:03 AM.

  8. #27
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    He has party and pot. Pretty average. I can break 900 now, not easy though. ( also 177 with hive bow )

    feels like sometimes when u reach the end of your cast , theres just so many things that need to be done zz.
    To be noted that that vid was done before WM was changed.

    I think highest I've got no party/pot/food/drg was 980 3mins.
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  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    To be noted that that vid was done before WM was changed.

    I think highest I've got no party/pot/food/drg was 980 3mins.
    really? I get so overwhelmed by these ogcds, rarely feel satisfied after a parse now. Gotta get gud I guess xD
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  10. #29
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    really? I get so overwhelmed by these ogcds, rarely feel satisfied after a parse now. Gotta get gud I guess xD
    Yup, check the vid date, June 28. I've seen it just before the WM update so yeah.

    The problem with WM right now is just the incompatibility with BRD's base kit which revolves around River of Blood. More often than not you end up with too many oGCDs at a time so you will need lots of practice in knowing and getting the priority oGCDs out (BL the highest) while managing your IJ refresh timing well.

    I took a lot of practice on dummies as well before I raised the bar from 920 ish to 980 tops, but again that is just to let you have a bit of muscle memory and familiarization with the prioritization. Still takes even more practice in actual fights to learn to react to the different situations which is the tougher part.

    No more good old days of easy moving pewpewpew - back then it used to be things like quad barrage timings, multi-dotting management and buff/song management that differentiates the top bards from the rest and now WM differentiates things even more.
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  11. #30
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    Shiena Panda
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    Is there a current stat that should be favored at this point and time? I would think it would be skill speed but I honestly haven't seen anything about this really.
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