Why can't DRGs do their positionals? Live Letter Answer lol

[Arkista]

ughh this better not mean reduced potency.
coming from monk, drg positional is brain dead easy

It really is super easy, Hit my Heavy Thrust from the flank, make sure my Chaos Thrust is in the rear, follow that up with one of the 3 new abilities.

MNK- DK from the flank, Twin Snake from the flank, Snap Punch from the Flank, Boot shine from the rear, True strike from the rear, Demo from the rear. Change it up based on the fight and whats going on.

There is plenty of down time for DRG to get into position.

[Evangela]

they have skills with high attack potency like that and still complain?

[Whymes]

It doesn't really matter anyways, an expert or even moderately skilled player on both classes will be making pretty much every positional. I didn't include math but, if you check the earlier post, you can miss around 3-4 positionals on a monk to equal a single missed wheeling thrust or fang and claw.

And to Evangela, I don't know what your input has anything to do with this discusion, because monk has faster attacks and higher base attack (when buffed with GL), of course the dragoon potencies are higher. In fact monk and dragoon dps is pretty close to equal. Nobody here is even talking about dps.

[Velia]

But none of that should matter because like I said, making the positionals on a dragoon is still harder, and that's something you can't really quantify. At worst, I'd say that monk and dragoon are on par, and for some reason people say that monks have it worse. I don't see how that can be.

Especially not now where DRG is punished for a boss' amateur theatrics while MNKs get stronger during downtime..

[Velia]

It really is super easy, Hit my Heavy Thrust from the flank, make sure my Chaos Thrust is in the rear, follow that up with one of the 3 new abilities.

MNK- DK from the flank, Twin Snake from the flank, Snap Punch from the Flank, Boot shine from the rear, True strike from the rear, Demo from the rear. Change it up based on the fight and whats going on.

There is plenty of down time for DRG to get into position.

Do you understand that Fang and Claw and Wheeling thrust are 100% random as to which you get?

[Whymes]

And yeah, people do say, monk does have to move more, it's true. But you'll never be in a situation like dragoon where you have to decide whether to make a positional or not unless you severely mess up your GL rotation, and the monk rotation honestly seems more uniform than dragoon, with it's randomly proccing skills, and buff timers. It seems like monk has a much more stable rotation now compared to dragoon, and that's what I mean when I say that dragoon positionals are harder to make. Or at worst, equal.

[Evangela]

ask SE to remove the positional requirements and reduce potency then. don't tell me you dragoons want everything.

[Whymes]

ask SE to remove the positional requirements and reduce potency then. don't tell me you dragoons want everything.

Yeah, and then when you play a dragoon and monk both to perfection, the dragoon will do less DPS and thus dragoon will not be invited to good raid groups, and then they will need to be buffed again. All things considered, the most important thing to SE is that all classes have the same utility when played to perfection, thats more important than making one class easier than the other, and I agree with them. Well, theyve never said it but it seems to be their attitude when they repeatedly say things like "players should learn the class, then we will see if they need buffed" (in reference to mch, etc).

[Akuryu]

"Monks have to deal with this, so DRGs should learn to deal with it too."

But why? Why do all jobs have to play the same? It's so boring. How about DRG has it's own unique playstyle? Let monk be the positional class. This notion that all the jobs have to play the same or similar makes everything so boring.

Buff 1, Buff 2, Dots, rotation, rotation, refresh dots, rotation, rotation, refresh buffs, refresh dots, rotation, rotation. zzZZZzzzZZz

[Orlandeu]

ask SE to remove the positional requirements and reduce potency then. don't tell me you dragoons want everything.

I think the main problem is the uncertainty of which 4th tier combo will proc rather than having the positionals at all.