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    Skypirate's Avatar
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    Reading Rainbow
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post

    IT IS A FLAT OUT DPS LOSS OF CATACLYSMIC LEVELS.

    Bard feels like a Black Mage, spamming cast times nonstop in a fight. It does not feel anything close to how Bard did before. It isn't the job we all opted to play! If we wanted to play BLM we would bloody well play BLM.

    I feel like everyone who says Bards should suck it up should have their melee DPS get cast times just to see how jarringly differently it plays. It feels COMPLETELY different.


    *Oh and you lose auto attacks too.

    *Oh yes let me not forget that the majority of your 50+ skills are also linked directly to this ability and inaccessible outside of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    I'm pretty sure that this post has nothing to do with those abilities getting nerfed, but thanks for your contribution.



    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post

    Because if you don't you might as well be a BLM running around using only scathe. The only way your comment would be remotely valid is if you weren't punished for being outside of WM, but you're severely punished.

    People are stating that The class itself is Losing DPS which is Straight up untrue. Saying that it's DPS Without WM is the equivalant of being a BLM only casting scathe?
    Really? Which is what i was Posting about in the first place.
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    Anyway, all of the elitism is unwarranted. It isn't as if everyone here is PVPing to compete for openworld Raid bosses or anything like that. Heck, most of us don't even pvp.
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    Panasync Dilaudid
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Skypirate View Post
    People are stating that The class itself is Losing DPS which is Straight up untrue. Saying that it's DPS Without WM is the equivalant of being a BLM only casting scathe?
    Really? Which is what i was Posting about in the first place.
    What are you talking about, the class isn't losing DPS outside of WM? Are you serious? If you are I can eli5 for you. Obviously I was being a tad hyperbolic, but I thought that was obvious. If you're willfully staying out of WM, you're losing DPS by a nice chunk.
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    What are you talking about, the class isn't losing DPS outside of WM? Are you serious? If you are I can eli5 for you. Obviously I was being a tad hyperbolic, but I thought that was obvious. If you're willfully staying out of WM, you're losing DPS by a nice chunk.
    If you're in a movement heavy phase, I can almost guarantee dropping WM is a DPS gain during that phase.
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    Light Seeker
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    If you're in a movement heavy phase, I can almost guarantee dropping WM is a DPS gain during that phase.
    I might just be a stupid Dragoon main who doesn't understand The Plight of the Bard but I'm guessing a Bard outside of WM is probably capable of doing higher DPS than BLM in Nevereap final boss (and any new content that has similar movement requirements), though I'd need to see actual parses obviously to confirm that fact.
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    I might just be a stupid Dragoon main who doesn't understand The Plight of the Bard but I'm guessing a Bard outside of WM is probably capable of doing higher DPS than BLM in Nevereap final boss (and any new content that has similar movement requirements), though I'd need to see actual parses obviously to confirm that fact.
    It's almost like you can mechanically understand a job without having played it. That would be crazy though.
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