How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[spelley]

My plan, because I want to grab left-side pieces as I don't have a static so not really in a rush to gear up for Savage as quickly.

1 - Chest x1, Hands x1, Feet x2, Ring (free)
2 - Chest x1, Hands x1, Waist x1, Head x1
3 - Chest x1, Head x1, Pants x1, Necklace x1
4 - Chest x1, Pants x1, Bracelet x1, Earrings x1
5 - Pants x2, Hands x2 (for another class)

Gonna save Esoterics most likely over weeks 3-5 for what I'm imagining will be a weapon. Otherwise, will try for BiS (priotizing Pants and Necklace/Earrings if any of them are BiS)

[rickyguo]

I'm going all acc+belt+legs into third week so that I can get gloves+feet on week three

[Mezzu]

Week one: 1 acc + 1 acc + 1 lens + 1 crank ( + free acc)
Week two: 1 pedal + 1 pedal + 1 lens + 1 crank
Week three (early in the morning before alex sav.): 1 belt + 1 acc

That way I'll have headpiece + gloves + belt + boots + 4 acc by the time I get in Savage.

[pandabearcat]

Dammit Dervy you gave me an incorrect AA potency again.

Way to go, 10800dps dragoons.

[Dervy]

You must of done something wrong as it's the exact formula my own Dragoon Excel Model uses.

((AA_DMG/33.04+1)*(STR/6.92)*(DET/6715+1)*(1/aa_delay)*BUFFS)-1.5

http://puu.sh/iSQVt/f74205a428.png

The rest of the stuff after the DET is Critical Hit Chance + IR & BL, Critical Hit Damage, Blood for Blood averaged, Heavy Thrust and Disembowel, sorry if it looks long as heck, lmaoo

[pandabearcat]

That part doesn't matter, the multipliers are done correctly.

I've put up the entire ogcd rotation that you mentioned, dervy (this is the last time I do this, any other rotational changes you guys will need to do).

The ogcd rotation looks like:

[p1.OGCD]
# don't cast any actions if it will clip
(p1.nextgcd<1.0){}

# use botd on cd when next ability will proc 4th
(!p1.aura.blood_of_the_dragon&!p1.cd.blood_of_the_dragon&p1.nextaction==chaos_thrust){blood_of_the_dragon}
(!p1.aura.blood_of_the_dragon&!p1.cd.blood_of_the_dragon&p1.nextaction==full_thrust){blood_of_the_dragon}

# use geirskogul if we have bfb and botd is > 22 sec or botd cd is < 14 sec
(p1.aura.blood_of_the_dragon.remaining>=22.0&!p1.cd.geirskogul&p1.aura.blood_for_blood){geirskogul}
(!p1.cd.geirskogul&p1.aura.blood_of_the_dragon&p1.cd.blood_of_the_dragon.remaining<=14.0&p1.aura.blood_for_blood){geirskogul}

# if we don't have bfb, use geirskogul unless the cd for bfb is <20 sec away
(!p1.cd.geirskogul&p1.aura.blood_of_the_dragon.remaining>=22.0&p1.cd.blood_for_blood.remaining>=20.0){geirskogul}
(!p1.cd.geirskogul&p1.aura.blood_of_the_dragon&p1.cd.blood_of_the_dragon.remaining<=14.0&p1.cd.blood_for_blood.remaining>=20.0){geirskogul}

# use dps cooldowns on cooldown
(!p1.cd.blood_for_blood){blood_for_blood}
(!p1.cd.internal_release){internal_release}
(!p1.cd.draconian_potion_of_strength){draconian_potion_of_strength}

# use life surge on ft, wt, or f/c
(!p1.cd.life_surge&p1.nextaction==full_thrust){life_surge}
(!p1.cd.life_surge&p1.aura.enhanced_wheeling_thrust){life_surge}
(!p1.cd.life_surge&p1.aura.sharper_fang_and_claw){life_surge}

# use power surge right before jump
(!p1.cd.jump&!p1.cd.power_surge){power_surge}
(!p1.cd.jump){jump}

# use all other ogcd's on cd
(!p1.cd.spineshatter_dive){spineshatter_dive}
(!p1.cd.dragonfire_dive){dragonfire_dive}
(!p1.cd.leg_sweep){leg_sweep}

# note I didn't put in mercy stroke here - it will be added later when marauder abilities are added

This results in an average dps of ~970 over 3 minutes. It seems in the right ballpark. The rest is ogcd clipping from the opener because we don't have accurate delay timings.

[SunnyHirose]

What kind of loot plan are you going for? I know there are several ways that people would be taking.

This one. I'm really hurting for skill speed right now, but the goal is to ride the Alex savage loot train ASAP*. Therefore, it is best to grab VIT and DEF/MDEF greedily because every eHP I get from a left-side piece is one materia-melded HP I don't have buy using all that gil I don't have.

* my group's actual "mission statement" is to get world first, but nobody in it is under the delusion we realistically can or will. Still, we would rather bag an early clear to get on with our lives, hehe.

[Aiurily]

probably going with this (after realizing gloves would be acc overkill on week 3) feels like the acc from legs would be relevant, and also ideally hope that savage alex won't be more than a 1-2 week effort. also hope the esoterics chest is crit/det just like our AF2 chest in 2.0 was hue

week 1 - accessory accessory legs legs
week 2 - belt accessory helmet legs
week 3 - feet feet helmet legs
week 4 - whatever whatever gloves gloves

stats compared to our old 3.0 gear, with what we have on the 3rd week we would get

+39 str +50 acc -7 crit +10 det +17 sksp

then after gloves on 4th week..

+44 str +97 acc (!) -37 crit +42 det -25 sksp

rip gloves. would work out if the eso chestpiece is crit/det/sksp though!



for reference, getting helmet/gloves/belt/feet and full accessories on 3rd week is

+36 str +43 acc -37 crit +108 det -54 sksp (553 total)

you'll end up in the same place as me on the 4th week with the leggings



with the 5 week full set build, you end up having less stats up front, but make up for it on the 4th and 5th week (so 7/14 days after alex release).

with sunny's table as a referrence you'd have head+gloves+belt+feet+2 accessories on the 3rd week, which is (with bracelet/ring selected as the 2 accessories)

+28 str +39 acc -40 crit +104 det -57 sksp

on the 4th week you get chest+finish accessories, bringing it to

+44 str -26 acc +40 crit +62 det +- 0 skillspeed

acc looks pretty spooky, but you can make up for it food (up to 34 acc from food with this)

then on the 5th week with a full set you'll have

+52 str +28 acc +40 crit -4 det +29 sksp

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overall a lot of it ends up being just praying to accuracy caps being low, esoterics gear and savage loot though. if you dont you'll clear savage 1-4 14 days after release then the full set would be best probably. maybe they'll make it so you need alex nm gear to get the savage gear (like upgrade items), or at least easier? who knows.

i personally don't think they'll add tomestone weapons, since there hasn't been any concept art of it yet, but we'll see i guess; maybe there will only be tomestone weps and upgrade material come from last boss only? if wep only ends up coming from last boss with no tomestone weps, i'll just hope the eso chest is good and get it on the 4th week most likely.

[pandabearcat]

Hello dragooners,

I've run the sim for realistic stat weights.

As a result, here are your stat weights, from ilvl 180 (full 180, hive weapon), normalized for weapon damage.

WD 1.0000
STR 0.1348
CHR 0.0195
SKS 0.0190
DET 0.0179

Pretty much stats don't matter, go for higher ilvl for more str and wd.

Here are your damage breakdown by ability:

Spell                    % Dmg	# Atk	% Crit	MIN	AVG	MAX
Autoattack               21.49	76	14.56	417.87	579.27	1080.72
Full Thrust              11.84	11	28.51	1625.76	2205.70	3496.67
Vorpal Thrust            6.38	11	15.45	993.52	1188.29	1942.60
Wheeling Thrust          6.04	7	26.47	1309.64	1765.67	3078.21
Fang and Claw            6.03	6	26.64	1309.64	1767.04	3078.21
Geirskogul               5.69	10	13.93	903.20	1166.00	2122.90
Chaos Thrust (DoT)       5.42	55	14.53	163.58	198.40	349.53
True Thrust              5.20	12	13.99	745.14	887.16	1592.18
Chaos Thrust             4.47	6	18.16	1241.90	1526.94	2653.63
Jump                     4.43	6	17.82	993.52	1513.46	3184.36
Phlebotomize             4.39	9	15.58	767.72	998.21	1804.47
Phlebotomize (DoT)       4.21	51	14.20	140.21	167.24	299.59
Disembowel               3.35	6	14.58	993.52	1145.10	2122.90
Heavy Thrust             2.90	9	12.89	533.71	661.13	1147.90
Leg Sweep                2.74	7	18.34	587.08	800.67	1379.89
Impulse Drive            2.69	6	14.81	812.88	919.38	1589.40
Spineshatter Dive        1.50	3	21.91	767.72	1022.22	1804.47
Dragonfire Dive          1.22	2	10.58	1129.00	1248.61	1867.88

EDIT: I just realized I didn't put in any damage variance. What was the standard variance again? +-1/22?

[Dervy]

What I'm interested in is how your sim valued SkillSpeed so high. How did you calculate DoT clipping?