Disappointed by Alexander (story) difficulty, fear Savage difficulty

[MageBlack]

@OP:

If i read this correctly you are concerned that;

A) Alex story is too easy Which will cause
- People to only do it once for story then not do it again
- People wont bother with Savage Mode
B) You worry that Alex Savage will be too hard for mid tier players
- The mid tier player will be forever barred from the Savage content and rewards

Well, this is by design. People, Like me (I consider myself a mid tier player), have yet to do Coil past the first turn because of the environment that hardcore content creates. I don't have a huge flashy FC with lots of people to take me through it. I just wanted to do it for the story, since I was a Meteor survivor I was really curious to see the story contained in there. I didnt even care if there were zero rewards, I just wanted to experience the fights and story without the stress. Alex story sounds like it is EXACTLY what people like me wanted. Thanks SE!

I honestly hope that Alex Savage IS insanely hard, there are people out there that really want the hard challenging content. I hope Savage is what they are looking for. Highest tier rewards, toughest content, and everything else they are asking for. I am not worried because there is still the Mid Tier raid to come, the Crystal Tower equivalent in 3.0. It will have good entry level gear for Alex Savage and difficulty for people like me to move from Alex NM to Alex Savage.

The CT 3.0 version will be the challenge I'm looking for

Sincerely,

Mid Tier Player.

[Bhuni]

While I find the current Alexander abit too easy, a lot of people in general still are struggling with A1 for example even though it's story.
I don't think they'll ever be able to make an 8 man raid for 'casuals' unless the boss has 1HP as a little responsibility is too much.

[MageBlack]

Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XVIII

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Wait... What? Does that mean the CT equivalent will be locked behind the Housing content too? I sure hope what you are talking about is in addition to the CT raid. If not I'll be some pissed that yet another piece of content is locked behind first come first served.

[seida]

I think there are many opinions on what a "mid-tier player" is.

IMO, if you didn't do coil once it was nerfed and had echo, you're not mid-tier. (Again, my opinion).

I completed fcob with upgraded poe and echo... I don't think I could have done it in it's original state. I'm not a hardcore raider. I consider myself middling.

Completed A4 with just two wipes, in DF. Half were new.

I am NOT against having an easy version so everyone can see story! I'm just worried that the choice is either: very easy version OR hardcore-raiders only version.

I shall wait and see how savage is... I'm just surprised how many people don't understand what op is getting at.

[Ashkendor]

It means different things to different people, apparently. The proper meaning, one that should be universally accepted, is 'a player who plays games for the singular sentiment of relaxing'. You know, long day at the job/school/whatever, you just want to unwind and have some fun that doesn't involve exercise. For the 'raid community' it means... well, this I will quote.

It's a very small portion of the raiding community that feels that way. Please don't paint us all with the same brush. Many of us understand that people play at different skill levels and don't think any less of them.

Honestly, I found the difficulty on Alexander NM to be quite fun for going in blind. My static downed Floor 1 on the third pull and Floor 2 on the second. Our WHM had to leave, and after asking around in linkshells we couldn't find anyone so we just queued in Duty Finder. We got a great AST that worked through Floor 3 (my favorite fight so far, very much a tank check) with us in about half an hour. We queued for Floor 4 but didn't get it down (bard forgot to repair so we had to back out, it was late so we just called it) and we're going again tonight.

Given how wrong people were about how difficult Alexander Normal supposedly was going to be (coil + echo was way harder than this lol) I really don't trust any of the information out there that hints at how difficult Alexander Hard will be. SE stated that they took clear percentages for Coil into account and such, which tells me that they aren't going to scale the "hardcore" content up much (if at all) from what it already was. Honestly, I think people are jumping the gun with the worrying and the crying about it because we don't have it yet so we don't know anything for sure. Personally, I'm willing to just chill and cruise the gear treadmill for awhile cause it's a pretty fun one. Several of us in my static were already talking about running these raids in partial parties in Duty Finder for shits and giggles just because they're fun fights that don't have a whole lot of stress associated with them.

[LunnaRavenheart]

@OP:
Sincerely,

Mid Tier Player.

You are not mid tier player, CT was always low end easy content you even can afk whole fight and still get win like some players do only autoattack whole runs. What is reffered as mid tier in this game now is Bismarck EX, Ravana EX.
Its not easy but also not hard, avarage player can beat in 1 evening or 2.
I think most of mid tier players (not you) wanted to have difficulty of Alex(story) as EX primals so avarage group can beat in 1 week all 4 turns with some tactics and gameplay and not all the turns in one day via dutyfinder.

[KamikazeMan]

not sure why it has to require i170 to enter.

To try and encourage people to do roulettes and help out newer players is my guess.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

CT is so easy to AFK, yet people easily wipe it to this very day. Hm.

[Nague]

you can remove half the healers in CT and still it would be easy.

[Kaedan]

I'm not sure why you even bother complaining about how easy Alex NM is then OP, if you think it's "fine". Sounds like backpedaling to me.


In any case, your "worry" that Alex Savage will be very hard is well founded. It IS going to be very hard, and there's nothing wrong with that. They gave the easy mode for the story-lovers, and they're giving the "really hard" mode for the hardcore progress lovers.

No, there's not going to be a middle difficulty, and there shouldn't be. If they don't make it uber hard, then they are neglecting the progression players. Are they neglecting the "I don't want easy, but I don't want super hard either" group? Absolutely. But you're just going to have to get over that, especially since your group is the minority compared to the other two.

They aren't going to make an entirely new middle set of ilvl gear just so that you can have your "kinda hard but not really" difficulty setting. And it would be a lot more development work which could be better spent elsewhere.