BRD/MCH look here

[Chairman_Meow]

Um... Our dps didn't get lowered. If anything, it was increased.

...........Songs...... read it again.

[Ryaz]

...........Songs...... read it again.

Ah, though you meant BRD and MCH.

[Aiselia]

Here's the problem with the "You're a support class" argument that people like to make.

DPS checks are a thing. The moment I can queue for Trial Roulette and get Ravana and only get BRD/MCH in the DPS slots, then they had better be able to put out a comparable amount of damage as other classes, because otherwise it's just going to make it that much harder to not get a half dozen swords. And we clearly won't need 4 TP/MP batteries. Heck, as a bard, I very rarely ever had to play TP or MP songs in a majority of the dungeons, because most encounters don't last long enough to require it. EX trials, sure. Raids, maybe. But a majority of the content doesn't require it, and the things that do, you'll most likely get an actual pre-made group for it so you can pick who you want to bring for balance.

[Benolan]

our tank was surprised when I accidentally pulled Afro

I'd be surprised too if you pulled my hair

[Ryaz]

I'd be surprised too if you pulled my hair

Lol. Stupid auto correct. XD Fixed.

[Chairman_Meow]

Ah, though you meant BRD and MCH.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe MCH loses DPS also by switching their turret into support mode. Support turrets don't attack afaik.

[Sessurea]

oh would ya look at that, multi dot possibilities throughout a lot of alex with spread out targets. brd/smn heaven. Gonna be funny to watch ALOT of people eat their words about brd dps.

[Chairman_Meow]

oh would ya look at that, multi dot possibilities throughout a lot of alex with spread out targets. brd/smn heaven. Gonna be funny to watch ALOT of people eat their words about brd dps.

That doesn't... mean anything. DPS checking is on a single target. When you're introducing multiple targets then AoE is always going to top the charts hands down. Bards still aren't going to beat SMN/BLMs in AoE unless you get Rain of Death procs back to back to back to back.

[Sessurea]

That doesn't... mean anything. DPS checking is on a single target. When you're introducing multiple targets then AoE is always going to top the charts hands down. Bards still aren't going to beat SMN/BLMs in AoE unless you get Rain of Death procs back to back to back to back.

and that's why a raid group has a blm o-o also spread out targets obviously don't suit blm. Bard single target damage is fine, been doing alex 1-4 all day, isn't v far behind other dps now though we do have a drg in the static so theres that. Idk this imaginary dps check ur talking about that's hard with a bard btw, and I've done them all lol.

[NoahArks]

After the update I changed my rotation and noticed that mch is pretty much stuck with slow bursts, to then do low damage for a while again. Gauss Barrel is great when you have your buffs ready to use. I'm using this rotation, but I'm still improving it, to be less buff depended. I'm not sure if Turret dps get calculated with wildfire, though. I use Rook + Hyper Charge anyway.

Hotshot > Lead shot > Gauss Barrel > Blood for Blood > Hawkeye > Raging Strikes > Wildfire > Rapid Fire > reload > Gauss Round > Split Shot > Slug Shot > Clean Shot > Split Shot > Quick Reload > Slug Shot > Clean Shot > Gauss Round > Deactivate Gauss Barrel.

With a bit of luck you'll have done the rotation up to the second Clean Shot before Wildfire it's countdown expires. Rotation is definitely not great, but atleast my DPS increased a nice amount. I just need to tweak around, and hopefully come with a way that it's not a complete 15 second burst rotation, to then have crap damage for a while.