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    Aqua_Amaiyo the only problem is that it just favours the casuals and not vice versa. It wouldnt hurt SE to release certain content and just say OK listen up We finally listened and Yoshi P went Tanaka for once.

    Example:
    Dungeon X we love recycling so here we did FF7 final dungeon to celebrate the FF7 remake or something. The dungeon will never be nerfed cause we want to bring the best of players we want to prove that people can get along or you cant beat it.
    If you beat this dungeon you will get this weapon its awesome it can be upgraded or whatever...
    Balance can be obtained in this game by actually letting certain things be as they are. I would totally devote time to learning something and even teaching eachothers if I knew the only way you can beat this dungeon is by learning it together. Its really not hard to do that. Steps of Faith should have never been nerfed it should have just been outside of your daily primal fight another example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok View Post
    Yoshi P went Tanaka for once..
    yes go with the person who single handedly destroyed FF14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    yes go with the person who single handedly destroyed FF14.
    More like didn't get to finish it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattia View Post
    More like didn't get to finish it.
    didn't finish it lol. if that was the only problem they would have kept him on.

    tanaka made a bad game yoshi p came in cleaned up his mess and made it the success it is today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    yes go with the person who single handedly destroyed FF14.
    You mean the person that was (very successfully, as evident by your comment) made the scapegoat for FF14 failing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    You mean the person that was (very successfully, as evident by your comment) made the scapegoat for FF14 failing?
    Rather he was the person in position of ultimate responsibility. His failures do not negate his successes, and I will always respect the work he has done. But to say he in no way was responsible for what happened with 1.0 is blind faith speaking and nothing further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok View Post
    Aqua_Amaiyo the only problem is that it just favours the casuals and not vice versa. It wouldnt hurt SE to release certain content and just say OK listen up We finally listened and Yoshi P went Tanaka for once.

    Example:
    Dungeon X we love recycling so here we did FF7 final dungeon to celebrate the FF7 remake or something. The dungeon will never be nerfed cause we want to bring the best of players we want to prove that people can get along or you cant beat it.
    If you beat this dungeon you will get this weapon its awesome it can be upgraded or whatever...
    Balance can be obtained in this game by actually letting certain things be as they are. I would totally devote time to learning something and even teaching eachothers if I knew the only way you can beat this dungeon is by learning it together. Its really not hard to do that. Steps of Faith should have never been nerfed it should have just been outside of your daily primal fight another example.
    We have a case example for that however - Savage Coil. It's popularity met an initial interest followed by a near-complete abandonment. Additionally, we do not have any information on whether or not 'savage' versions of Alexander will be adjusted in the same manner as the Coils were. However, if we are to follow precedent of the term "Savage" we can expect that these versions will not be adjusted. Would this satisfy you?

    As far as the adjustments to current mechanics. I'm sorry but I can't agree. Specifically in terms of Steps of Faith - Most important among the reasons is that Steps of Faith is a gate to access an entire Expansion's worth of content - there is no reason why it should be difficult with that considered.

    As far as those who specifically seek a challenge, the Echo Bonus on any encounter can be clicked off, and there is now a "Minimum ilvl" feature to push for all instanced encounters - so further adjustments for those seeking challenges are being made.

    In fact, supports for both casual and hardcore approaches has occurred with this expansion, yet I see further complaints on both ends. This is troubling - as there is only so far any developer can go to appeal both. Keep in mind in no way can developer ignore one group for the sake of another. No matter what the viewpoint, there will be compromise. They have to weigh concerns from opposing viewpoints on top of the harsh realities of game development and maintenance. This deserves a bit of respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    As far as those who specifically seek a challenge, the Echo Bonus on any encounter can be clicked off, and there is now a "Minimum ilvl" feature to push for all instanced encounters - so further adjustments for those seeking challenges are being made.
    And while this is a very good point, it will be thrown out. Why? Because this isn't what people mean by a "challenge". What they want is a shiny thing that 95% of the community wants but can't get.
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