3.01 Patch Notes

[Aeyis]

You just repeated what I said. It gave enough time to do that.

Huh? Sorry, but I was under the assumption that I was the one to say that, and you to repeat it; and then twist its meaning into the opposite? oO

You only need to be "in time for the raid" if you care about the progression race.

People who play that way had enough time to experience the leveling fully and gear up in time for that.

Yes. And thats exactly why they gave 2 weeks time so people could enjoy the story at their own pace, while still being prepared. Being prepared here was being noted as having reached 60 (60 equiped), not being in full law equipment.
Perhaps you did. Are you royalty, that you speak in plural?

But those type of players are still the ones with more time and dedication to raiding.

No, they are people with dedication to the game, and not just raiding.

They should just enjoy the content on their own time, instead of asking for more of an extended gate and holding back the players who are already prepared.

I see, so this is personal. People feel they are being held back. I guess that explains why my off hand ironic comment sparked this heated discussion.


Why, my apologies for stepping on sore toes.

[Dererk]

This token system looks absolutely disgusting. For those uninformed:



There are 4 turns, and each one you can obtain a token from weekly. So not only do you fight the RNG of getting the token you want to drop, but then you have to win the RNG-lottery four times a week.

Why SE? Why couldnt' we just get a token from each turn for a turn-in? Why did you make it so we have to spam the dungouns in the hopes of getting the drop, then in the hopes of winning the lot, and in the case of major pieces, having to do it four times?

I'm glad I'll have a static. But holy **** this is A Grind Reborn.

Ya that dose seam like a bad design.

[Millerna]

The entire discussion could've been avoided if Square had announced the required iLvl a bit sooner. They did make it sound like the only requirement would be level 60.

The tomes are easy to come by and the grind isn't all that much of an issue to be honest, but i170 did surprise me a bit.

[Dererk]

You forgot the part where you have to get full 170 by spamming dungeons. The slower players are only reaching 60 now, or did so a few days ago. How you expect these players to already be full 170 is beyond me.


People with lives and full time jobs typically dont have (anywhere near to) full 170. And god forbid they also took the time to level crafting/gathering.


As such, anyone that got to 60 and put a lot of extra effort into going to 170~ or higher gets a clear advantage over those that ''took their time to enjoy the road to 60''

I spent 2 days of early access to get DRK to 50 I spent about a week doing main story then started gearing doesn't take that long.

[Fantasy9]

For the fun of it, I tested a theory out. My Ilvl 136 lvl 58 BRD and my Ilvl 118 lvl 50 BLM. With astral 3 my BLM's fire 1 does double my BRD's Heavy shot with WM active. When firestarter pops, fire 3 does triple my heavy shot. You know something is seriously wrong when I can achieve more with a lower lvl lower geared BLM than my higher geared higher lvl BRD. They shouldn't have nerfed the abilities. After all sidewinder is a lvl 60 ability so it can only be used when not lvl synced.

[Kayote]

Hello, so were the brd/mch changes great or no? how important is 10% dmg compared to the lower potency on skill changes? if it is a strong dmg boost to both classes then that's a great thing.

Obviously testing is in order but it doesnt look very good. Measly 10% increase yet our biggest and best attacks were dropped from 10%-30% in potency. Still leaves the other more common attacks with a nice 10% increase in damage and possible stance dancing now which should quiet the bunny hoppers down a little. Hopefully WM is off GCD so we can weave it in and out between movement phases etc.

My hope is this is a quick bandaid fix done on short notice. Not perfect but hopefully an overall improvement.

MCH though ... I dont know about them. They needed more help than Bards from what I can tell yet seem to have gotten even less.

Regardless of whether or not this is good or bad, both of these classes need to be reworked. Theyre pretty much the same class as the other and need to be given their own unique flavor. Not to mention a decent spot as actual DPS, not a halfassed support with a hybrid tax.

[A-Shock]

Ya that dose seam like a bad design.

Have to agree here.. It seems like certain "tokens" only upgrade certain pieces from what I can tell? We get 2 per turn and 7 other people to gear... Savage will be out long before anyone gears up. Looks like I may just upgrade my gear to i180 instead.

[Allyrion]

Huh? Sorry, but I was under the assumption that I was the one to say that, and you to repeat it; and then twist its meaning into the opposite? oO

I'm pretty sure Yoshida was the first person who said it regardless.
There was no contradiction and you said there was. The 2 weeks were given for that purpose and then I said that the time is always going to be different for different people.

Yes. And thats exactly why they gave 2 weeks time so people could enjoy the story at their own pace, while still being prepared. Being prepared here was being noted as having reached 60 (60 equiped), not being in full law equipment.

They never said it was only leveling that was the purpose. The 60 dungeons and even the ex primals are pre-Alexander content were all part of the content they gave us 2 weeks to enjoy, in addition to the leveling.

Perhaps you did. Are you royalty, that you speak in plural?

No, they are people with dedication to the game, and not just raiding.

Are you purposefully misunderstanding me or what?
I am not talking about people just dedicated to the game.
We are talking about a raid release, and people who want to go into a hardcore raid on release day.

It's okay if you do other things in the game, but if you want to be on the cutting edge of raiding then you have to be a certain type of player.
The type of player that is involved in the progression race. Since otherwise, you can just do it on your own time.

So 2 weeks were enough for those type of players.

I see, so this is personal. People feel they are being held back. I guess that explains why my off hand ironic comment sparked this heated discussion.


Why, my apologies for stepping on sore toes.

This is funny.
You're making assumptions about me right after correcting someone who made incorrect assumptions about you.

I'm not speaking for myself.
There are quite a bit of people who are full 180 with a Ravana weapon. I'm not.
But that's okay.
They could extend the lockout and it wouldn't really bother me cause I'm doing other things.

But they shouldn't have to. If you have priorities outside of raiding, then just get to the raiding in your own time.
Why do you need to be ready when the doors open?
All the 2 week lockout needed to do was give enough time for the most cutting edge players (I'm not one of those) to not have to skip everything getting to 60.

So it did that.
It doesn't need to be more than that, because anyone who aren't that serious about raiding to get prepared in that time really aren't the people the 2 weeks really needed to cater to.

Because the only thing the lockout does, is affect the race. Otherwise the doors are open from now on and players can get to it when they feel like it.

[Mhikail]

Utterly disappointed about none of the new jobs getting balanced or fixed, for me...AST.
At least throw me a bone and give fxcking Shuffle a fix.
Perhaps we can get some real good feedback here during Alexander from the players, they may listen then.
But come on now.
EDIT: Oh they added more FATES. Hope it's in N.Than.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

So how easy/hard is Alexander normal mode? Can't find a single post about it yet. People must be too busy running it to come to the forums and comment on it. It'll be a while before im able to gear up enough to step in there so just want to know what to look forward to.

Anyone clear the first turn yet? How about in df?