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Thread: BRD/MCH Fixed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Can't DPS if you're dead.
    stop moaning and learn to move like casters and healers do - last I checked they had cast bars and weren't dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Can't DPS if you're dead.
    You have a BLM at 60. You should know that you can DPS with cast times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    decrease on the potency of so many skills
    2 skills got nerfed in potency.
    The rest were not touched. Those two that did get hit, have a rather high recast time, so yeah... All in all it's a buff, as long as you are under WM/GB.
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    Gauss now ogcd instant cast and yes a small potency decrease to 2 ability's which were only used for the first 15 secs and never used again?

    This is a massive boost for us, do you even mch?
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    It won't be fixed, but atleast both skills can be thrown into your rotation. For mch I've been doing GB every 20seconds, so I can use Gauss Round. It's a slight dps increase, not a lot, but they're on the right track.

    Only problem I have with it is do the other players think it's enough to finally allow mch's to their end game runs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahArks View Post
    It won't be fixed, but atleast both skills can be thrown into your rotation. For mch I've been doing GB every 20seconds, so I can use Gauss Round. It's a slight dps increase, not a lot, but they're on the right track.

    Only problem I have with it is do the other players think it's enough to finally allow mch's to their end game runs?
    While BRD and MCH don't have the best DPS out there themselves, they can help their team do better. You won't find these numbers anywhere...
    But their DPS IS enough for end game content. It was tested as such. Nobody is saying it's the same as SMN's, or NIN's... But it's enough.
    The fact that people don't want these jobs in their endgame runs is just player mentality, and their attempt to hide their sub-par DPS on superior DPS classes. :X
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    You have a BLM at 60. You should know that you can DPS with cast times.
    its not cast times, its the damage that BLM does , if they made the BRD/MCH damage = to that of a BLM, no one would be complaining. pretty sure its not their.. so, I don't think its as much about the cast times vs damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMunimai View Post
    stop moaning and learn to move like casters and healers do - last I checked they had cast bars and weren't dead.
    If people wanted to play like a caster they would of made one instead because at least they have extremely high DPS output unlike BRD. Currently it feels like for many the BRD now plays like a caster (stuck to the ground while 'casting' your skills and skills cancelled if move at all)...only the new BRD caster class is doing a small fraction of the DPS output of that other BLM caster class so I can completely understand how these changes have ruined the BRD class for many. BLM for example is not dead despite using cast timers because it does a shit load of damage, bards with cast timers and being rooted to the ground unless take a massive 'additional' DPS loss on top of the many other DPS losses get from both skill use debuffs, low WD and low potency so do not have that same luxury or that same benefit that other casters have.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 07-07-2015 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahArks View Post
    It won't be fixed, but atleast both skills can be thrown into your rotation. For mch I've been doing GB every 20seconds, so I can use Gauss Round. It's a slight dps increase, not a lot, but they're on the right track.

    Only problem I have with it is do the other players think it's enough to finally allow mch's to their end game runs?
    Why would you only use GB every 20secs? You're killing your overall potency. No wonder ppl think MCH in general have crap dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMunimai View Post
    stop moaning and learn to move like casters and healers do - last I checked they had cast bars and weren't dead.
    Not the play style we picked a bard for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wigett View Post
    its not cast times, its the damage that BLM does , if they made the BRD/MCH damage = to that of a BLM, no one would be complaining. pretty sure its not their.. so, I don't think its as much about the cast times vs damage.
    I've never said that the DPS of BRD/MCH is the same as BLM. And it never will be, as long as you have support abilities that make the whole party do more DPS...
    The thing is, if you want to do your best possible DPS as BRD/MCH, you have to play similar to BLM, since there already is a class that plays that way, it clearly shows that it's possible to do.

    I understand people complaining about BRD/MCH not doing "enough" damage. I do NOT understand people complaining about the 3.01 changes, ESPECIALLY those calling it a nerf.
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