BRD/MCH look here

[Butcherboy]

Ok question time. Is this only for mch and brd or others jobs was also mention. 2nd since the increase in dmg to 30% for WM and GB, does this validate for for staying under WM and GB full time?

[Wavaryen]

Ok question time. Is this only for mch and brd or others jobs was also mention. 2nd since the increase in dmg to 30% for WM and GB, does this validate for for staying under WM and GB full time?

Who knows at this point, and with Parsers being kinda buggy as I am being told. It will be hard to swim through the bs until we find the truth.

[Astral145]

I really don't understand why SE thought it would be a good idea to make MCH a dps support class. MCH should have been a pure dps job that competed against BLM and SMN for that slot in a raid.

The bottom line is MCH and BRD are dps. There is no such thing as a dps support class because there is no dps support slot in df. All arguments that reflect that idea are mute points due to the fact that there is no support dps slot in DF and most dps have some serious utilities with no penalties.

The game play with GB on is not fun. Granted there is such a thing as a well aimed shot but at the same time the dps does not reflect the damage GB should be doing. Say what you will but BRD and MCH needs some adjustments and buffs. Honestly BRD and MCH needs a weapon damage increase by +4 and the cast time reduced and if people think that will make it go back to the way it was in 2.0 then you are wrong. Melee will always out damage brd and mch due to the utilities it brings to the raids.

[Typhoria]

Who knows at this point, and with Parsers being kinda buggy as I am being told. It will be hard to swim through the bs until we find the truth.

It would be nice if SE would just come out and provide us with a parser. Have it be an interface tool that can be turned on and off, then we won't even have problems with is X dps showing up correctly on the parser.

[Wavaryen]

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I think we need time right now. We need numbers, and we need to figure out the math since a lot of stats seem to have changed some. Right now we are in the..I don't know area and that is scary for many people.

[ziddyt]

Wait, are you people still complaining after we get a flat out 10% increase in damage? Guys, seriously?

It's not a "flat out 10% increase."
It also does not solve the problem of people who don't want to use a caster stance at all having the majority of their 50-60 abilities being tied to the caster stance, making the expansion less enjoyable for them than other jobs. I am not one of those people, but I sympathize, especially considering how much I hate the MNK changes and how they literally make the job less enjoyable.

[Rivez]

I err cant take the barrel off untill the recast has finished... I hope this is a bug.

[xzeroikgre]

Where the heck did this support theory even come from? Just because of powerful support songs? So what? How about all the support that other dps classes give also? That people can argue they add just as much as our songs. Yet, they don't think of themselves as support. Until a dev comes out and says. This is a support class, nothing you say matters on the subject. You are a dps class not support.

"Concerning the machinist, his role is similar to the bard, it's a support for the other members of the team. So, compared to other pure DPS jobs like monk or ninja, of course its DPS will be lower since they have different roles. With the upcoming release of Alexander next week, we'll be very happy to receive feedback from the players."


^from one of the dev's themselves in case you missed it...

[Wavaryen]

"Concerning the machinist, his role is similar to the bard, it's a support for the other members of the team. So, compared to other pure DPS jobs like monk or ninja, of course its DPS will be lower since they have different roles. With the upcoming release of Alexander next week, we'll be very happy to receive feedback from the players."


^from one of the dev's themselves in case you missed it...

Thank you, that is all I was asking for. Since I was told developers don't see bard as support. They are just pure dps. I am glad at least someone showed me something. As I was even searching for it. I guess I suck at finding things.

[xXRaineXx]

"Concerning the machinist, his role is similar to the bard, it's a support for the other members of the team. So, compared to other pure DPS jobs like monk or ninja, of course its DPS will be lower since they have different roles. With the upcoming release of Alexander next week, we'll be very happy to receive feedback from the players."


^from one of the dev's themselves in case you missed it...

He hasn't been playing for very long, missed a lot of things.