BRD/MCH look here

[xXRaineXx]

If the job was intended to be that way from the start, I would probably agree. The fact is that from 2.0 up until 3.0 that's not how the job was intended to play, MCH you could make the argument, BRD is a different story.

Finally someone with logical sense, players like Lunar are a plague here. For any longterm BRD's, these changes are *meteoractuallylandedinff7whichkilledeveryone* bad.

[Pluvia]

Finally someone with logical sense, players like Lunar are a plague here. For any longterm BRD's, these changes are *meteoractuallylandedinff7whichkilledeveryone* bad.

simple fix is to not use it and eat the damage loss

[xXRaineXx]

I already do that, I haven't used it in any occasion since I first tried it out at lvl50. I don't mind the damage loss, but that's NOT the issue.

This is going to create 2 factions in the core BRD system. The NON-Minuet and Minuet stance factions. This might lead to something similar to console wars where each side tries to flame each other down. I'm not saying this WILL happen, but if there are others like me; then there is a fair chance that it will. I don't want to see something like this happen to my beloved BRD...

[Wavaryen]

I already do that, I haven't used it in any occasion since I first tried it out at lvl50. I don't mind the damage loss, but that's NOT the issue.

I don't think it will be that bad. The problem is not the people who are playing the brd, but what the community thinks we offer them in groups. How often have you needed to use your support songs in group play? We will see how badly it will be needed in the new raid, but so far the mp is crazy high, and healers not been needing songs.

Point is that what we bring to groups is dps, and if we still can't do that well after the changes. We are going have a long drawn out wait.

[Craiger]

I don't think it will be that bad. The problem is not the people who are playing the brd, but what the community thinks we offer them in groups. How often have you needed to use your support songs in group play? We will see how badly it will be needed in the new raid, but so far the mp is crazy high, and healers not been needing songs.

Point is that what we bring to groups is dps, and if we still can't do that well after the changes. We are going have a long drawn out wait.

From what I understand, the healers are going to run out of MP just as much as in 2.X, or even faster since Piety is nerfed (according to what I've heard). We haven't gotten into raids yet, and that's where it will really be needed...

Also, unless you have 2 ninjas in you static, you will need TP regen. It's not like we last longer now... in fact, unless you're using TP regen on MNK(losing attack), all melee jobs runs out at the same time or faster than 2.X.

Some players have recently proven that at least MCH can do more DPS than what the majority of players say. Some of the numbers from Ravana EX is pretty good.

MCH and BRD are utility DPS jobs, and you don't really go into raids without one. You don't need the utility that other DPS jobs brings, it just helps you, but in most cases, you need a MCH/BRD... That's the difference, and that's why they have lower DPS.

[Wavaryen]

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We shall see. I am hoping that is the case, as I like that element of the game also. I just wish they would not have made the two classes mirrors of each other, and change the play style of brd. Since my wife plays a healer and wants to do some raids. I will see how the mana goes, and work on things with her.

[xXRaineXx]

To Wavaryen -

I have decided to block you and I can no longer see your posts. I may have said too much on my side, I can accept that but without apologies. I hope you do the same to keep this conversation as light as possible.

Have a good day.