For anyone who won't see it, buffs to MCH not incoming

[Dererk]

The thing is people parse is a third party program SE can just look and see if it's playing right if it's not they will find it.

Till then just take it easy.

[Croisciento]

Forgot to add, Square is probably not going to do heavy lifting because seeing the group results on Alexander NM. I believe they set up their planning in a way they can adjust classes before entering Alexander savage. I wouldn't bother too much about it since if the class is under performing they'll gonna fix it eventually.

[Craiger]

If this is translated in a correct way, you should all analyse the meaning of what was said I little more.

- Its possible that players parser are unable to parse MCH DPS correctly and thats why there is a difference.
- Dev team is actually doing some test to see where this difference comes from and will patch if they find a bug explaining the DPS gap btw players parser and dev parsers.

^ This is pretty much proof that they're getting different numbers to what we got. Especially "that's why there is a difference", which means they know there are different numbers for us compared to them, and that ours is too low.

From what we've seen in the game, it seems it's their "parser" that is wrong, and they should see that once they are done testing it.

I'm not saying we will see a buff to MCH damage, but don't give up all hope yet.

Also, getting kicked from groups? That's why you should be in a static that is nice, and don't just kick you because your job happens to be a little weak at the moment. Shouldn't be kicked from any other content, because it doesn't matter.

[RiceisNice]

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I would like to see this 1k parse.

GB is a very small damage gain, if not a loss. This is considering perfect scenarios where you can literally turret mode the entire fight. Meaning small interruptions or not getting blanks off cooldown is a straight up loss. MCH is better suited for GB playstyle (unlike bard with bloodletter resets), but it doesn't mean they're actually doing more damage because of it; the numbers just don't add up toward a damage increase.

Also, getting kicked from groups? That's why you should be in a static that is nice, and don't just kick you because your job happens to be a little weak at the moment. Shouldn't be kicked from any other content, because it doesn't matter.

Which is why I'm lucky I have a static going into 3.0 from clearing FCoB on my bard. People nowadays at least on my server, straight up refuses to have a machinist on their PF, much less have a MCH in a new budding static. Sure you can make your own, and the mileage will vary when it comes to getting the people you need, or even getting people at all if your leader happens to be a machinist... Most of my non-static farms have been because people had to vouch for me, or the leaders personally knew me from pre-3.0 bard.

[Phireblast]

Also, getting kicked from groups? That's why you should be in a static that is nice, and don't just kick you because your job happens to be a little weak at the moment. Shouldn't be kicked from any other content, because it doesn't matter.

Because finding a static is always an easy task, right? If it wasn't for my FC, I wouldn't even have FCOB cleared.

[MrSmiley]

The thing is people parse is a third party program SE can just look and see if it's playing right if it's not they will find it.

Till then just take it easy.

yea take it easy and let us do less damage then offtanks and some healers. I think se's end is not as simple as you look, if it was mmos wouldnt have numerical balance issues ever.

[Ryaz]

Also, I've seen many people just using ammunitions to do the usual 1-2-3 combo. We also wondered why the potency bonus was so low with ammunition. It's because from my point of view ammo is used to get proc. Instead of doing 1-2-3, you're doing 1-2-1-3-2 etc. My dps went skyrocket after realizing that.

Potency bonus is low with ammunition due to Increased Action Damage and Gauss Barrel. With ammo up, Split Shot is 160. Now multiply that by 1.44 and it 201.6. If they made the ammo too powerful, even our basic attack would hit like a truck when its up.

As for 1-2-3 vs switching it up-- for the most part, with ammo up, its all going to end up the same anyway. 1-2-3-1-2-3 vs 1-2-1-3-2-3 gives you the same potency either way.

[Judge_Xero]

I could definitely see it being an issue with the parser not reading correctly.

As SMN it's something you just get used to.

i.e.

If you have the "Party" filter on the parser wont pick up Ifrit's Auto Attack damage or his CD skills (Crimson Cyclone/Flaming Crush)

If you are combining pet and SMN as one, then Ifrit's extra skills are listed as another player that isn't shown other than in the log, so you'd have to manually add that to the SMN's total.

I'm still not sure if SMN dots are adding in the Spell Speed bonus to damage since 3.0.

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So....is the parser properly tracking the Turret damage Single Target AND AOE?

Does the turret have any quirks that prevent it from doing damage? (Initially if Ifrit or Garuda got hit by an AOE they would just stop attacking, or if the add they were attacking died, they would just stop attacking till you re-commanded it)

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Looking at the skillset, Machinist looks really powerful, especially with their Burst/Wildfire. (is wildfire included in parses? since by the wording it's the effect that deals damage and not the Machinist)

[IfritReborn]

One would wonder why SE just doesn't include an official parser in the game that can properly pick up MCH damage and quell the confusion and outrage going on, but I guess common sense is lacking these days.

[NintenPyjak64]

Anybody remember 2.0 warrior? SE said it was perfect and people didn't know how to play it. 2.1 Warriors got significant buffs

SE isn't always right