memorial service for MCH

[NoahArks]

I dont know if this is serious or sarcasm

Probably sarcasm. I tried it and I lost some dps. It could be possible I'm just insanely unlucky, cause I also have to do atleast 8 dungeon runs of one dungeon before I see a brd/mch drop.

[Shneibel]

Probably sarcasm. I tried it and I lost some dps. It could be possible I'm just insanely unlucky, cause I also have to do atleast 8 dungeon runs of one dungeon before I see a brd/mch drop.

lets take a quick look:

2-3
100 + 200 = 300 potency

1-2
140+180 = 320 potency with a chance to pop another 200

according to post the one I quote early, it will be:

2-1-3-2-3
100-140-180-200-200 = 820 potency

now imagine you have to press 2 10 time to trigger 3: 100 x10 = 1k potency, it is a 400 potency loss compare to 140 x 10

while if we follow 1-2-3 pattern

1-2-1-3-2-3

140+180+140+200+180+200 = 1040 potency

One minor correction-- you can't do two 3s in a row. The second one would only be 100 potency. It would have to be 2-1-3-2-3 to get 820.

FIXED ! thank you

[Ryaz]

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One minor correction-- you can't do two 3s in a row. The second one would only be 100 potency. It would have to be 2-1-3-2-3 to get 820.

[Alkel]

Yoshida talking about MCH in JE interview (in french):

Naoki Yoshida : (rire) Nous avons entendu que beaucoup de joueurs pensent que le DPS du machiniste est plutôt bas, cependant nous l'avons fait tester par l'équipe de développement et le job de machiniste peut faire de très gros dégâts. Je suis certain que beaucoup de joueurs utilisent ce logiciel pour mesurer leur DPS, mais il est possible que le logiciel ne soit pas à jour ou que la rotation des skills utilisée par l'équipe de développement et les joueurs soit différente. Nous essayons donc à l'heure actuelle de découvrir d'où vient le problème et si problème ou bug il y a réellement, bien entendu nous le corrigerons. Mais nous n'en sommes pas encore à ce stade, nous essayons juste de rechercher et analyser pourquoi cela arrive.

the meaning of this:

- Dev team knows that player fells MCH DPS is too low, but the dev team made enough test and said MCH can do big damages.
- Its possible that players parser are unable to parse MCH DPS correctly and thats why there is a difference.
- Dev team is actually doing some test to see where this difference comes from and will patch if they find a bug explaining the DPS gap btw players parser and dev parsers.

Nothing good really and i guess MCH can prepare themselve to be exluded from Alexander during a long time.

[popotaro]

Yoshida talking about MCH in JE interview (in french):



the meaning of this:

- Dev team knows that player fells MCH DPS is too low, but the dev team made enough test and said MCH can do big damages.
- Its possible that players parser are unable to parse MCH DPS correctly and thats why there is a difference.
- Dev team is actually doing some test to see where this difference comes from and will patch if they find a bug explaining the DPS gap btw players parser and dev parsers.

Nothing good really and i guess MCH can prepare themselve to be exluded from Alexander during a long time.

Oh Dear God... I remember him saying to 2.0 WAR players "you don't play it the right way" before applying those so needed buffs.

[Duelle]

Oh Dear God... I remember him saying to 2.0 WAR players "you don't play it the right way" before applying those so needed buffs.

Seems history is repeating itself. Not good at all.

[Ryaz]

Well, on paper, MCH doesn't look that bad A Ninja's basic combo of Spinning Edge (150), Gust Slash (200), and Aeolian Edge (320) has a total potency of 670. For MCH we have Split Shot (168), Slug Shot (216), and Clean Shot (240) plus three turret attacks of 94 damage would give us a total potency of 906. If you're using ammo, that increases to 966 potency total, which is massive and the reason why they added proc chance. The proc chance should keep us about even with other jobs for basic combo damage. We also have a really strong DoT in Lead Shot.

So the question is, what is wrong with the rest of the class that it causes low damage? Is it the mediocre 5% damage increase from Hot Shot? Are the parsers really wrong? Is there a bug? It's hard to really play this class "wrong" as outside of the buff phase, there isn't much to it other than using the combo, refreshing buffs, and using OGCD abilities like Head Graze, Gauss Round, Ricochet and both reloads when they're up.

[NovaLevossida]

Oh Dear God... I remember him saying to 2.0 WAR players "you don't play it the right way" before applying those so needed buffs.

As someone who mained WAR and did Coil at ARR launch with an interest in playing MCH,

;_;

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

1-2-1-3-2-3

140+180+140+200+180+200 = 1040 potency

I was just starting to experiment with this in Shiva Ex yesterday! This is great news!

[Nightz_End]

Still playing it. Still gonna raid with it.

R.I.P. MCH pretenders.

THIS.

I'm not giving up on a class I enjoy.