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  1. #11
    Player
    Colorful's Avatar
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    Character
    Charlotte Elise
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Don't worry about it, 5-10 minutes added to a dungeon is really no problem. If you're good at your job, it's already going to be faster than usual since a few of the DPS I encounter are... sub par to say the least.
    (5)

  2. #12
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    Kazzoey's Avatar
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    Character
    Blade Haven
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarynth View Post
    My favorite thing kazzo is when my party is all well there goes the dps... We got a mch here... Then im all lol 30k damage in my 15sec opener... And proceed to rip hate >_<
    Yea I noticed with all my buffs and skulls set up, I can almost insta-nuke the dungeon boss into its phase two and steal all the aggro, but then it's back to itty bitty numbers for the rest of the fight.
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  3. #13
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Alvis Yune
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    I brought this up in another thread, but I had a Vault run a couple days ago with a MNK and DRG... who took so long to kill the second boss that there were twelve rifts spawned by the end of the fight, and that was with me as WHM squeezing out all the extra DPS I could to prop them up.

    I will take a MCH who actually tries over any other class not trying any day, because they're still going to outperform them. And if they're doing their best and still getting beaten by everyone else, then bloody fantastic, we're kicking ass in whatever content we're in, no question.
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  4. #14
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    Character
    Ashkendor Zahirr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I don't mind MCH and BRD at all. My raid static currently has 2 BRD in it (might be doing some shuffling, but for now it is what it is) and we had zero problems with the Bismarck EX dps check. When I see a MCH or BRD in a dungeon, I shrug and hope the same thing that I do for any other class: that they aren't complete assholes and that they know how to play the job at a reasonable level of skill. Don't feel selfish for playing the class that you think is fun. It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. If it isn't, what's the point of playing?
    (5)

  5. #15
    Player
    nuyu11's Avatar
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    Character
    Kokotsu Kotsu
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Last night I run Expert with MCH as a Bard, not that bad but not fast.
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  6. #16
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Character
    Lyote Sharaia
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Runs take longer with a MCH not because their overall damage is that terrible, but rather because of RNG making trash mobs slower when we hit hat inevitable drought of SS and CS procs.

    On bosses, our damage is fine for the most part because the fight draws out long enough for procs to make a difference.

    Improve the proc chances without ammo loaded and we're fine.
    (3)

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  8. #17
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    elemental10's Avatar
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    Character
    Yomiko Readman
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Improve the proc chances without ammo loaded and we're fine.
    As a budding MCH, procs I think are the brunt of our damage. Procs are RNG so.... can't blame if the Slugshot Proc won't come up.

    Improve the rate of procs coming up and I think it'll be fine.
    (2)

  9. #18
    Player Hypie's Avatar
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    Character
    Stygia Ashenscale
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I feel like all of the new jobs are a bit undertuned. Machinist more than the others. Which is why i've decided to hold off on trying it.

    In my current case: My AST just doesn't feel as wonderful as my SCH.
    Cause they are and they did it plain to much to mcn. I think they choose the other way after all that crying with the nin nerf 2.4
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  10. #19
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    Character
    Leyna Crosse
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    In regards to OP, I feel the same way on my main of Bard right now
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  11. #20
    Player
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    Character
    Lyote Sharaia
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by elemental10 View Post
    As a budding MCH, procs I think are the brunt of our damage. Procs are RNG so.... can't blame if the Slugshot Proc won't come up.

    Improve the rate of procs coming up and I think it'll be fine.
    Yeah, its kinda dodgy that we rely so heavily on Reloads to do reasonable damage. Reloading boosts our potencies while removing the RNG, the potency boost alone is reason to use it every time. Boosting the RNG wont change our DPS much in the long run, but will absolutely help for add phases and the like.

    Hell, in Fractal, I've taken to saving my Ricochet for second boss adds and last boss adds so i can practically 2 shot them. Lowers my boss dps though ...
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