Master Recipe Gear OBSOLETE for RAIDS

[Ooshima]

What's the point of adding grade V materia or having a materia/crafting at all if the gear made with it are not viable for end game content?

Sure it should not be BiS, but it should be fairly close, not worlds apart as it currently is.

I laughed so hard when patch was up and I checked the MB for all the new items.

I told myself screw it, there isn't as much reason to rush day 1 crafting cos there isn't that profit to make like SCoB/FCoB patch launch lol.

The only reason I have WVR/LTW 60 right now is because I wanted to craft the Thavnairian Bustier and Company Tabard for glamour

[Sessurea]

What's the point of adding grade V materia or having a materia/crafting at all if the gear made with it are not viable for end game content?

Sure it should not be BiS, but it should be fairly close, not worlds apart as it currently is.

Considering stat nerfs I'm not even sure the grade Vs are strong enough =/ 5 det Vs ( Christ imagine the cost ) only adds up to 60 det which is such a small boost now ( less than 1% damage boost apparently ) .

Also heard something about se wanting a more horizontal approach to gearing now. People with full penta melded near bis on day 1 of savage alex wont help them with that, and by not introducing it should also prolong the time it takes the community to down alex savage. I think the ilvl 110 crafted gear were a mistake by se, don't think they realised how overpowered it was especially when t13 got killed way faster than they predicted.

[Ooshima]

Considering stat nerfs I'm not even sure the grade Vs are strong enough =/ 5 det Vs ( Christ imagine the cost ) only adds up to 60 det which is such a small boost now ( less than 1% damage boost apparently ) .

Also heard something about se wanting a more horizontal approach to gearing now. People with full penta melded near bis on day 1 of savage alex wont help them with that, and by not introducing it should also prolong the time it takes the community to down alex savage. I think the ilvl 110 crafted gear were a mistake by se, don't think they realised how overpowered it was especially when t13 got killed way faster than they predicted.

Yup, SE, particularly Yoshida admitted that in a JP interview when asked about how fast FCoB was cleared and stated that crafted gear are meant to be catch up gears that helps you to enter raids, but not giving that kind of power that led Lucrezia to down it in 1 week. It is not just Lucrezia, lots of teams are clearing it faster than it took for SCoB so it really shows.

I was prepared that Yoshida is going to do something, but I didn't expect this much level of nerf. It's a good and bad thing. Good that I don't feel compelled to rush day 1 crafting each time at and obscene cost and uncertainty about the prospects of making a swift recovery and fat profits (also note that I have to make a set for myself and that's my costs too). Bad that there's one less source of fat gil which leaves me to sell carries. But somehow right now I felt it was for the better. There's just too much grinds right now and Yoshida had just took one big worry off my shoulders. Probably it gives everyone a more level competition ground to enter Alex in a way or another.

On a side note, STR/VIT accessories could be still useful for Tanks, at the very least.

[MortalWare]

If they truly don't want crafted 'gear' to be good for end game then they really need to shift the focus of some of the crafting classes.

More glamour recipes, more furniture and housing recipes.. that kind of thing.

Crafting doesn't have to be all about wearable gear but classes such as Weaver and Leatherworker are heavily stacked with gear recipes and will need some reason to exist.

[Sessurea]

On a side note, STR/VIT accessories could be still useful for Tanks, at the very least.

Yep for sure. At least when ilvl is high enough to lose some vit. Probably accuracy melded healer accessories too, due to the lack of acc on their stuff. I seen one source say

[Aeyis]

Y'all remember how mad the forums were because coil dps checks were met shortly after patch? Penta melded crafted gear was how they did it. And tbh I don't want a crafted piece to be bis again.

I think the ilvl 110 crafted gear were a mistake by se, don't think they realised how overpowered it was especially when t13 got killed way faster than they predicted.

How is having full ilvl 180 + an ilvl 190 weapon any different from that?
To me it sounds like you dont want crafting equipment to be viable because you dont craft yourself.

[SarcasmMisser]

What's the point of adding grade V materia or having a materia/crafting at all if the gear made with it are not viable for end game content?

Sure it should not be BiS, but it should be fairly close, not worlds apart as it currently is.

Crafted accessories can be tens of ilevels below raid gear and still be BiS for tanks. The only argument for a tank to not have a i150 set right now is that there might be better accessories around the corner, fully melded it is far more efficient than going full fending.

[scarebearz]

Crafted accessories can be tens of ilevels below raid gear and still be BiS for tanks. The only argument for a tank to not have a i150 set right now is that there might be better accessories around the corner, fully melded it is far more efficient than going full fending.

A few tank accessories suddenly make crafting worthwhile? xD

What about the other classes? xD

For Alexander progression MT's will likely be wanting full Vit higher ilvl accessories anyway.

[Ooshima]

A few tank accessories suddenly make crafting worthwhile? xD

What about the other classes? xD

For Alexander progression MT's will likely be wanting full Vit higher ilvl accessories anyway.

Depends on the skill level of the tank.

I have known tanks that swore by and wore melded accessories (both WAR and PLD) that progressed through the entirety of coil.

[Yumi_umi]

So technically 3.0 crafting =
We craft gear for crafters so that they can craft glamour and furniture.once everyone get to 60 crafts there will be no point in crafting as crafting glamour/ bardings/ furniture require no HQ = easy to craft.
Only crafter i see viable now for the current raiding cycle is cul.
Just farm alex normal for alt job gear = no need for crafted melded hq gear ( wasn't it for catch up?)