Master Recipe Gear OBSOLETE for RAIDS

[dspguy]

At release, I had assumed that 60 1-star gear would be equal to law gear, since that's what they did in 2.0. Philosophy started uncapped (like law) and both were i70.

The statement that crafted gear is always lesser to raid gear is true in the pure iLvl sense. But people proved out in 2.4 that pentamelded i110 gear could be as good if not better than i130 gear. The fact that the entire playerbase that wants to do these high ilvl requirement is pretty much forced to do hunts with no other option is pretty bad.

[StouterTaru]

But people proved out in 2.4 that pentamelded i110 gear could be as good if not better than i130 gear.

For the accessories, the dps + VIT made them overpowered, which is why they held off releasing i110 accessories until 2.5 and extreme progression was using i90 accessories for 2.4

The reason i110 crafted was used for the first progression groups was that i130 was gated, and melded i110 crafted stomped i110 drop/tome gear. After the gates, a few pieces of i110 were barely BiS over i130 for dps, but at a VIT loss.

[Rath]

Considering all the mats obtained from legendary nodes have no recipes yet, I would assume they are coming soon.

[Yumi_umi]

Since no mainhand/ AF gear is included in the rewards for the 50 -60 crafting job quests, se will probably make them craftables in the new masterbooks obtained thru red scrips.
Cuz if each gear was an individual purchase then
-the purchase list will be bloated with gear
-there will be a big decrease in craft recipes that are worth the trouble

...... Give me dusk leather

[Sessurea]

Can probably expect an ilvl 170 ( maybe 180 but I doubt it ) crafted set to be released along with alex savage and eso tomes. I have heard that se wish to change their stance on crafted gear so that it is not viable for raiding and certainly nowhere near bis. Y'all remember how mad the forums were because coil dps checks were met shortly after patch? Penta melded crafted gear was how they did it. And tbh I don't want a crafted piece to be bis again. That kirimu coat...all my hate. Also secondary stats are kinda junk now compared to their value in arr, so that's an even further reason to not bother with crafted.


I'm very happy about this if it's true. Economy on odin has literally gone down the drain and I have no motivation to make gil anymore.

[Dante_V]

When you take into account the statements from the producer regarding craftedgear being too powerful and the fact that they said there will be a higher ilvl disparity from savage/eso to law/Alex normal I think it's fair to say most of the bis gear will likely be pieces from savage Alexander and esoteric gear. I think they will release recipes that put the crafted gear around the Alex normal gear and pentamelding this with new tier 5 materia will likely produce a comparable setup that is competitive to the Alex normal gear but not better than the savage gear. I agree that the last batch of crafted gear was too powerful and I think the best gear should come from savage raids. But I think that crafted gear should be viable vs normal Alexander gear for at least entry level into the savage raid.

[Dante_V]

To clarify, the combination of alex normal gear and crafted pentamelded gear to fill in drops that you haven't gotten from Alex normal or to replace Alex normal gear that has less than desirable secondary stats for entry use Into Alex savage. And these gears will be used until they are replaced with the Alex savage/upgraded esoteric gear

This will both allow for a market for the crafted gear for raiders while making it not as powerful as the previous incarnations.

[Sessurea]

To clarify, the combination of alex normal gear and crafted pentamelded gear to fill in drops that you haven't gotten from Alex normal or to replace Alex normal gear that has less than desirable secondary stats for entry use Into Alex savage. And these gears will be used until they are replaced with the Alex savage/upgraded esoteric gear

This will both allow for a market for the crafted gear for raiders while making it not as powerful as the previous incarnations.

Yh I like that thinking, and it may very well be the case.

[scarebearz]

What's the point of adding grade V materia or having a materia/crafting at all if the gear made with it are not viable for end game content?

Sure it should not be BiS, but it should be fairly close, not worlds apart as it currently is.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

We already know they are adding in red gatherer scrip and red crafters scrip.

We can deduce from those that there will be items to buy with said scrip. We can also deduce that there will be new items to turn in for that scrip, items that use the stuff that currently has no use.

Basically, be patient, and let us see what these next two weeks or so bring. Namely, this Tuesday and the Tuesday two weeks later.