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  1. #101
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    Kelg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    It kinda is when the people posting such things then refuse to accept that others don't care to look at their notion of sexy. Or that there's any sort of similarity between their argument and 'I don't want to look at half-naked women'. It's fine to have the opinion of not wanting to see something, but to use that opinion as an argument to try to prevent others from seeing what they want to see... that's not fair. It's not always straight males who play male characters. It's not always straight women who play female characters. You have people of pretty much every gender and sexuality playing either gender.
    I was more referring to why people are so outspoken against this. I am actually very aware that people don't play their own character's gender, but I also believe a good sum of the players are indeed male, and straight(which is probably why people are mostly okay with females getting more options than males).

    Honestly though, don't care what people do with their character. To each his own.
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  2. #102
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    KaijinRhada's Avatar
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    Jaou Stormchaser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhikail View Post
    Snip.
    I wouldn't be so quick to suggest to the first part, but I will agree to the second. Granted I am female playing male, I have done so with most MMOs I have played. Sure I would like more risque options for guys, but it's more of what I am looking for when making an outfit and what I'm in the mood for as I often mix and match.

    Besides, Au Ra have such nice scale patterns:
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterLucie View Post
    Pls let me be slutty, SE. You're denying the world this fabulous Au Ra body.

    Why would you go and do that?
    Now if only they had the booty to match... It's so flat across the board for guys. x.x


    In the end though, I just want equal number of options for my guys as there are for girls. I will take what I can get as far as choices go.
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    I'ma go punch that.
    Tank and DPS

  3. #103
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I like my men to look and act like men.
    Why did you choose Midlander then?
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  4. #104
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    Mili Brand
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    Now let's be honest here, is this a real fundamental issue or SJWs at their worst?
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  5. #105
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    C'alih Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    I was more referring to why people are so outspoken against this. I am actually very aware that people don't play their own character's gender, but I also believe a good sum of the players are indeed male, and straight(which is probably why people are mostly okay with females getting more options than males).

    Honestly though, don't care what people do with their character. To each his own.
    True, a majority of MMO players are male, though it's far from the 95% majority some people still quote. That may have been the numbers a bunch of years ago, but I think the numbers I saw last were somewhere around 60/40. In general across MMORPG. And if you consider that FFXIV has been said several times (that I've read, at least) to be more attractive to female players compared to other MMORPGs... it's probably more even here than in other games.
    (Also, gender measurement doesn't take into consideration either sexuality or aesthetic preferences, and while the societal norm is still 'heterosexual', the societal norm also puts 'gamer' as a minority... *shrugs*)

    But yes, I agree with your 'to each his own' (or her own). The problem is that for some of us -- not saying most or even half -- 'his/her own' is unavailable. =/
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    Last edited by Noxifer; 07-06-2015 at 04:16 AM.

  6. #106
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaijinRhada View Post
    Now if only they had the booty to match... It's so flat across the board for guys. x.x
    Unfortunately, as part of the graphical change from 1.0 to 2.0, everyone has a concave ass now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Why did you choose Midlander then?
    Ouch!
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

  7. #107
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    Now let's be honest here, is this a real fundamental issue or SJWs at their worst?
    Of course not. The vast (vasssttt) majority of gear in this game is gender neutral, with barely any (if any at all) variation between gear for different genders.

    Anything that is varied is so minute it's barely even worth mentioning in light of everything else. I can't even think of another MMO at the moment that's as tame as this game is, not a single one.

    I saw someone in here try to compare XIV to PSO2, which is taking hyperbole to the level of complete absurdity.


    Hey guys, if you want to wear fishnets and heels or whatever, that's super cool, and you have the right to ask. But please, stop trying to slant this argument as if FFXIV is doing you some kind of disservice. It makes it hard for anyone to take you serious.

    Society is almost always built around gender roles. It varies between cultures, but it exists. The first step in getting anyone to take you serious is to stop trying to pretend like it isn't a thing.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 07-06-2015 at 04:20 AM.

  8. #108
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Why did you choose Midlander then?
    ...because you can design them to be conventionally attractive and masculine. They're fairly well built and could easily pass for an athlete/male model/celebrity stud depending on the design.

    If you don't think this looks like a guy then I'd strongly suggest getting you eyesight checked out and/or any potential insecurities regarding the concept of masculinity resolved:

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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    I saw someone in here try to compare XIV to PSO2, which is taking hyperbole to the level of complete absurdity.
    That was me. It might be an extreme comparison, but yes, if they continue to give female characters access to everything, and not male characters, it will eventually be like that in terms of vanity gear.
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  10. #110
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    Yorin Liefhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Unfortunately, as part of the graphical change from 1.0 to 2.0, everyone has a concave ass now.
    He's got the booty... in my mind...
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