Is it still to early for speed runs?

[KisaiTenshi]

One week? I saw PF's up one day after with the "know your s#%t or you will be kicked".

Those people will be waiting an awful long time then.

I'm of the opinion that "speedpulls" aren't going to be viable until one generation of "tomes" gear goes by. Unlike ARR launch where people wanted full darklight just to WP and AK... you know the very same dungeons that give the tomes in the first place, it's still possible to get usable drops from just the EX dungeons. Hell in a single run through Neverreap at the bare minimum 142 ilevel I got 4 items for my job I was playing. That's something that NEVER happened in any of the ARR dungeons. That brought the ilevel up to 150. The first time through "The Vault" did something similar. The ARR dungeons you were lucky if you even got one item that anyone in the party could use.

Like I think the "rare gear" drops from chests have changed in a way to actually consider the party composition. The only other drops during that run were for Dragoon (one of the DPS party members) and Tank. Or maybe it's just a coincidence. On the other hand... the SAME item dropped twice.

[UBERHAXED]

Like I think the "rare gear" drops from chests have changed in a way to actually consider the party composition. The only other drops during that run were for Dragoon (one of the DPS party members) and Tank. Or maybe it's just a coincidence. On the other hand... the SAME item dropped twice.

LIES! I'm fully convinced that healer gear does not exist in the dungeons. aside from belts, rings, and bracelets. And when they drop, its like "hey bro it's gear what are you complaining about". "Oh, I already had these from the last 6 chests in this dungeon".

[Zfz]

LIES!

LIES! +1

My first ever tanking drop from the new dungeons was like at 59 or after I dinged 60. Not exactly sure but I had full quested gear for a very long time...

[saber_alter]

just depends on group composition, and if healer and/or tank is willing. personally the mobs still hit a little to hard for me to deem it worthwhile for the expert dungeons, but a few of the sohm al, the 53 dungeon and dusk vigil are pretty trivial to SR.

LIES! +1

My first ever tanking drop from the new dungeons was like at 59 or after I dinged 60. Not exactly sure but I had full quested gear for a very long time...

spammed sohm al for the tank set, but otherwise i used crafted gear. honestly the library set is stupid for tanks anyway.

[Xau]

Like I think the "rare gear" drops from chests have changed in a way to actually consider the party composition. The only other drops during that run were for Dragoon (one of the DPS party members) and Tank. Or maybe it's just a coincidence. On the other hand... the SAME item dropped twice.

sorry, but the drops still don't consider the composition of the party
i have seen like billions of ninja gear drops and no ninja on the party at all
the drop sistem is still the same what on ARR, since it took me like at least 10 runs to get like 3 pieces from the lvl 60 dungeons for me actual job, where most of the time, the gear it droped whas for dps classes what weren't there
so yes... you are a very lucky fellow