Please consider changing Gauss Barrel/Wanderer's Minuet

[IfritReborn]

The mess started from the community in the first place because people wanted Bard to rival the other DPS while still being Mobile and Range.

The other DPS had higher DPS but they had a risk factor that Bard avoided due to their gameplay style.

Melee DPS risk was being in close range to enemies and bosses for their DPS.

Casters DPS risked standing still to attack in exchange for their DPS.

Bard had neither these risk factors so their balance was their lower DPS.

What people wanted was for Bard to be a DPS Job that can perform the equal amount of DPS of a Melee DPS and Caster DPS without the risk of melee range and the risk of standing still but that would cause Bard to be too OP.

People wanted Bard to become equal to the other DPS but hardly did people consider what would be sacrificed for that Increase DPS.

I'm not sure how to follow this. When Bards provided MP/TP regen it was a hit on their DPS.
When MCH provide MP/TP regen not only is it a hit on their DPS but they lose a major DPS cooldown.
And what you're saying is that they should do low DPS because they're lolmobile and even LOWER DPS when providing MP/TP?

Sorry, but when MCH and BRD are doing 800+ without providing MP/TP and EVERYONE else is doing 1000+ there is a problem.

[Anzaman]

Leveled up Machinist to 60 and more or less enjoyed it, but Gauss Barrel is killing the fun from it.

[Kayote]

Or you could just play a caster?

Or not? Dont like magic... I like Archery. What I find surprising is everyones sudden attachment with movement. Like the ability to move is the make or break mechanic for a class. Been playing this game for a while and hardly ever see BRDs, including myself, move around all the time. Maybe in PvP, thats it. Otherwise its the annoying bunny hoppers thinking it looks cool or whatever.

Sorry but if bunny hopping is all I have to sacrifice in order to not be some halfassed Archery DPS then so be it.

[Lyaha]

Sorry but if bunny hopping is all I have to sacrifice in order to not be some halfassed Archery DPS then so be it.

It's not about the constant movement, it's the cast times on abilities, we didn't want them, there are bosses that simply require a lot of movement and we simply enjoyed the fact we could walk out of the way, do our abilities that were designed with no cast time in mind and make up our DPS that way, now I have nothing against 1 or 2 new abilities having a cast timer, give them a 15-20 second cooldown so it doesn't screw with the entire class. Because this class was designed for movement, you don't go changing that after the fact, that's what new classes are for.

[EdwinLi]

I'm not sure how to follow this. When Bards provided MP/TP regen it was a hit on their DPS.
When MCH provide MP/TP regen not only is it a hit on their DPS but they lose a major DPS cooldown.
And what you're saying is that they should do low DPS because they're lolmobile and even LOWER DPS when providing MP/TP?

Sorry, but when MCH and BRD are doing 800+ without providing MP/TP and EVERYONE else is doing 1000+ there is a problem.

I'm not including the factor that BRD and MCH lose their damage by activating their support abilities.

I'm using the factor that both BRD and MCH have the lowest damage of the game even with their TP and MP off.

There low DPS is mostly from how BRD and MCH obtain the lowest Damage from their weapons.

BRD/MCH only gets 65 damage at ilvl 190 weapons

All other Jobs obtains 72 damage from ilvl 190 weapons

However, this is the price Bards pay for being the mobile DPS since it prevents Bard from outshine the other DPS by perform equal or more DPS than the other DPS without the risk the other DPS must face.

After all bards only risk is their low DPS beyond that the Bard is almost the Ideal DPS Job being fully mobile and can attack from close to long range without any risks to their HP.

[ParanoidHobo]

disregarding any other arguments about numbers or movement for a minute, can we all at least agree that Gauss Barrel looks stupid?

[Obysuca]

Forgot about Ricochet, don't really know how it works either since i'm not MCH myself and was just going with what was presented to me after FC members tested their damage both with and without gauss barrel over a set period.
thank you for the clarification though.

Yeah, from what I noticed, it seems to hit everything around it twice, which is pretty nice. Unbuffed with 4+ enemies, it hits for 500-800 a hit (twice) on everything, but it's got a minute cooldown :/

[Destomius]

Brd is at risk of becoming the new forum Smn if y'all keep posting all these identical threads.

Ironic because SMN turned out to be the best ranged DPS

[Malevicton]

Ironic because SMN turned out to be the best ranged DPS

already been said and responded too

[SovereignAegis]

Gauss barrel at present is only a very slight benefit for AoE damage for MCH. Aside from that it is absolutely lowering it's damage AND is a waste of 3 skills in my opinion.

I'd rather see it reworked into something else.... anything else, adding cast times and immobility onto us and lower damage is TOO MUCH.