Kicked from groups as Astrologian

[Gallus]

Your cards more than make up for the lower DPS output. You boost the entire DPS output of the party rather than yourself which imo contributes more DPS than any scholar

Fey wind disagrees

[Zanhe]

Your cards more than make up for the lower DPS output. You boost the entire DPS output of the party rather than yourself which imo contributes more DPS than any scholar or whmas that extra damage thanks to your buffs couldn't have happened if not for your buffs. Assuming DPS is the reason why the group wanted to boot you since most groups nowadays pretty much expect healers to DPS.

Single target and getting almost all good dps cards you only buff by like ≤5% ~ 40-50 DPS on full i180 DPS as Astrologian.
I didn't test on full party but it's RNG based and it won't even be close to what a Scholar can do DPSing.
I did 3-4 times that much very easily on T13 as Scholar while healing in 2.X, no problem.


Aswell as people talking about the Ravana Extreme solo heal...
Don't use that as a measure to see if a job is good, even though Ravana Extreme solo tank is easy to heal, it might just be the player that is good, and that doesn't mean Scholar or White Mage couldn't do it with much, much less effort.

[Saseal]

I've co-healed as WHM with AST several times - I never saw nor felt a problem with them. >_> At one point I felt my presence was a general overheal until heavier mechanics/shit happens. There is nothing wrong with AST.
Either the guy wasn't paying attention to the real issues or is a little stuck in the old ways (hence asking for SCH+WHM duo).

[Maero]

From like 99% of Astrologians i have been with they are damn good even better then white mages and scholars 9not always mind you)
Maybe the leader wanted a carry? lol

[AsahinaMyLove]

It was probably(?) the same guy from my server <-<
He/she Lvd up Astro to lv60 and complained in shout chat with "Astros spells cost x2 more then a whm!, but cant heal a shit - they suck"
"a healer based on rng is just bad" - Astros dont have a skill that heals a totaly random amount of HP!!

That complaining guy his/her lv as whm was 38 <-<

While I had both on lv50! (same gears + lv130 weap) The astro his MP cost are actually way lower (around 1/3) then on a whm. <-<

Im playing mainly astro too almost lv60. My 1st problem(like every1 else had) was that last CRAZY OP boss in Ishgard-Church with his totaly unfair + op atks! >-> (Not cool.. the chains and fire AoE zones same colour like the ground)


Im using very often the cards Jar(lesser MP costs) and Spear(CD of skills running faster ) to save my MP.

[h0tNstilettos]

AST is not a worse healing job than WHM or SCH. The thing is, AST has the highest skill cap of any job in game, so there are a lot more bad AST than there are good ones. So there is this bias against them. Plus people want to compare specific aspects of the job to WHM or SCH without looking at the job as a whole. A good AST is equally as valuable as a WHM and SCH.

[Waffilicious]

The AST heals are the same as sch and WHM as I've tested it (WHM being burst, sch barrier/sustain and AST being super fast heals with a little of regen or barrier). The only thing I've noticed on AST is the lack of DPS department they buffed WHM and sch is really strong DPS, and programmers now include ex/alex savage fights with healer DPS in mind so i can see a bit why people are being jobcists.

Still with the correct amount of skills they can erase any lack of DPS, yes it takes more effort (seriously see the top players and they break the estimated DPS records).

[Welsper59]

AST is not a worse healing job than WHM or SCH. The thing is, AST has the highest skill cap of any job in game, so there are a lot more bad AST than there are good ones. So there is this bias against them. Plus people want to compare specific aspects of the job to WHM or SCH without looking at the job as a whole. A good AST is equally as valuable as a WHM and SCH.

Doesn't help when the general consensus is that DRK is in a bad place and (obviously) MCH is in a horrible place. "New jobs = useless" sort of mentality.

[Nague]

AST doesnt have "fast heals", where is that coming from...

[Waffilicious]

3 diferent instant heal skills + lightspeed