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  1. #41
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    Actually she can see just fine. Matoya is concerned that the light has left her eyes and due to using the ability to sense aether higher is costing Y'sholta her life. I suspect that Y'sholta will be just fine and Matoya will be the one to restore Y'sholta's former Green Eyes through a use of a spell. I'm sure other Scions will have something different about them as well as we find them.
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    Thancred with a different haircut
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    Yeah, nobody commenting on Y'shtola's eyes post-Lifestream dip kind of bothers me. To have her eyes go from a vibrant blue-green to glassy white is extremely noticeable, but absolutely nobody says anything until you get to Matoya (who doesn't see fit to share that information). Sure, the mission was more pressing and Y'shtola has shown no handicaps, but it's still a little odd that nobody said anything. (And yes, she actually is blind; she's just using "aethersense" to compensate.)

    Lolorito's account contradicting what actually happened, on the other hand, rankles ten times more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Lolorito's account contradicting what actually happened, on the other hand, rankles ten times more.
    Forgive and forget? You have to be the bigger person! Not hard, really, since he's a Lalafell...

    And nonono, you've got it all wrong. You completely imagined any betrayal on his part. He sic'ed the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves on us to protect us, from, from treachery! Yeah, from treachery! Now that we know he's a good guy at heart, everything can go back to how it was before! Raubahn can just regrow an arm, and Y'shtola can just get Allagan lasic or something. Yeah!

    (I really miss Yda... T^T)
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    He is not a good guy, but the fact that what he cares more gil than power, it kind of benefict us. He totaly understood that kiiling the sultana wasnt good for him. But by my ways of see it, he even didnt care if uldah turns out to become a republic, in fact this could be super good for him e_e. But regarless what he did, that doesnt make him a good person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Forgive and forget? You have to be the bigger person! Not hard, really, since he's a Lalafell...

    And nonono, you've got it all wrong. You completely imagined any betrayal on his part. He sic'ed the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves on us to protect us, from, from treachery! Yeah, from treachery! Now that we know he's a good guy at heart, everything can go back to how it was before! Raubahn can just regrow an arm, and Y'shtola can just get Allagan lasic or something. Yeah!

    (I really miss Yda... T^T)
    Yeah why didn't anyone think to say, "Tell us what you know about what happened to the other Scions and we'll call it even" during that? Honestly I felt that the Ul'Dah segments were the weakest part of Heavensward.
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  7. #47
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    Well, anyone with half a brain knows Lolorito is still a douche who only cares about profit; he saved the Sultana not out of good will, but because her dying would upset the social and political systems of Ul'dah, costing him coin. (Also why he's against the idea of turning it into a republic.)

    That said, his account of what happened contradicts what actually did. He places it in this timeline:

    1. Nanamo is "killed" by the Warrior of Light.
    2. Ilberd goads Raubahn.
    3. Raubahn kills Teledji.

    Now, this is what actually happened:

    1. Nanamo is "killed" by the Warrior of Light.
    2. Raubahn kills Teledji.
    3. Ilberd goads Raubahn.

    Now, there's always a way to break the script, and I suspect that's what happened (Teledji goaded Raubahn himself, Ilberd took an opportune moment to degrade Raubahn). Still doesn't explain siccing guards on us, seemingly with the intent to kill? And what happened to the rest of the Scions? Excepting Thancred (who might be lost to the Lifestream like Y'shtola was) they should all be easily accounted for(?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I got the impression they were just relieved to have her back and wrote the change off as a side-effect of having taken a very long soak in the Lifestream. I don't think anyone else (until Matoya) realizes how she's seeing.
    It's still an issue because of how (clearly) obvious it was to every player who's ever seen Y'shtola before. Or any person ever who's ever seen a pair of working eyes before.

    "Oh hey Shtola, nice to see you alive and wel-"

    "..hey why are your pupils missing"
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    About Lorolito
    Maybe the framing of the Scions and the WoL wasnt Lorolito's idea, it was Teledji. That would explain why he was upset at the end. He was well aware of how mad Teledji was but he couldnt imagine he would be that crasy to frame the Scions/WoL. Given their reputation and that the WoL managed to scape, he could have being "worried" of what reprecutions would being to the future ( I would guess he would like to make a hole army, leading by the WoL against him, who knows lol )

    Maybe like this =

    Lorolito : " Fuck Teledji, I would have never imagine he would be that stupid to frame the so called WoL. Its common sense that everyone who support him would not believe by a sec the accusations againts him. What we was ever thinking? Did he even think of the consequeses he would brigh ? Now I will have to deal with all the mess.. "
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 07-03-2015 at 01:37 PM.

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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Yeah, it seems rather odd that they don't mentioned her eyes at all after being resurrected from the lifestream. i guess what's obvious to us is not so obvious to in game characters? I would think they'd at least ask what's wrong and she'll just say "Side effect of being in the lifestream, don't worry"

    I would think Urianger will notice, too.

    Eitherway, seem as if she's a very powerful CNJ since E Sumi Yan himself said wielding her new staff can pose as a challenge for himself
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