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    Lilyanna's Avatar
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    Mia Koji
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    Conjurer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Fumitsuki View Post
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    This kind of stuff is getting out of hand ... I am tried of seeing tanks who don't understand that new content is actually hard at first, ESP if your under geared like that. Or tanks that decide that cooldowns are below them and never use them to help out the healers. OR the people that see your good at your job and proceed to stand in EVERYTHING and think that you are their heal slave. If a tank stands in AOE's, I ask once nicely, then I stop healing completely, you can kick me if you want, idc, I'm not a slave so you can be lazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    I was lvling my drk and got an ast. He was so focused on drawing cards that i solo healed myself on trash x.x
    LOL, when I started leveling my AST, the first thing I did was memorize all the cards so I wouldn't have to: Stop. Read Buff. Decide how to apply. Not that hard actually, since there are only 6, and you can make a cheat sheet and put it next to your TV/Monitor/Whatever ...


    Story-kind of:

    I wasn't healing, but my husband was, I was helping him clear the new dungeons as I was ahead of him and had been 60 for awhile. We get Neverreap, so is all good, I'm on my i145 SMN (Main SCH), we get a PLD & a MNK. I was rocking 1200DPS on aoe and about 800Single (Yeah, I suck, but I tried) ... the sad part was ... the monk ... flat out 200-300 DPS, on everything ... I couldn't say anything because of "OMG get banned for calling out DPS", the Totem boss took like 10minutes! AND then today, my husband queued solo for expert.... got Fact-whatever, and both DPS <500 ... This is starting to want to make me leave.... And I'm not saying that everyone should be God-Like DPS, but <500 DPS is just lazy IMO, when the tank can out DPS you in tank stance or my SCH can out DPS you while keeping the tank up, your horrible. Period.
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    Last edited by Lilyanna; 07-02-2015 at 08:42 PM.

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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyanna View Post
    And I'm not saying that everyone should be God-Like DPS, but <500 DPS is just lazy IMO, when the tank can out DPS you in tank stance or my SCH can out DPS you while keeping the tank up, your horrible. Period.
    Check if they were using their ARR Relic weapon when that happens. DPS should be noticing. Healers probably wouldn't notice since the healing differential is based on the Mind stat and the difference between the level 50 relic weapon and level 60 (non-tomes) weapon is tiny.
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Check if they were using their ARR Relic weapon when that happens. DPS should be noticing. Healers probably wouldn't notice since the healing differential is based on the Mind stat and the difference between the level 50 relic weapon and level 60 (non-tomes) weapon is tiny.
    The magic damage stat on your weapon is the largest potency increase per stat you can get. 1 magic damage is worth roughly 5-6 Mind.

    Nirvana Zeta is 82 magic damage and a Hive Cane is 100 magic damage. That is a comparative increase of a little under 100 mind worth of potency!

    Oh, and DPS.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    The magic damage stat on your weapon is the largest potency increase per stat you can get. 1 magic damage is worth roughly 5-6 Mind.

    Nirvana Zeta is 82 magic damage and a Hive Cane is 100 magic damage. That is a comparative increase of a little under 100 mind worth of potency!

    Oh, and DPS.
    The point is, a healer isn't constantly trying to maximize time casting healing , because that just increases enmity for no reason. If someone forgets to switch out their weapon, the worst that will happen is that a dungeon with high healing requirements (eg Tank's and melee DPS who don't move out of AOE's) requires more strategical use of heals rather than just trying to faceroll over it. A DPS who doesn't switch their weapon is constantly delivering poor DPS performance. Hence the tank and healer being able to out-DPS the DPS.

    Which is why I'm thinking the party in question in Lilyanna's story likely were still using a relic weapon past level 54.

    And you're looking at the wrong gear. The Nivana Zeta is 82, the Birch Rod(level 60) HQ is 85 which is why I said "non-tomes", but the last weapon you get from a quest is the "Birch Signum" level 58 HQ which is 84 (Or the green Thavnairian Cane from the dungeon is also 84.) So only a difference of 2 points, not 18.

    So as I suggested, someone who is under-performing by such a margin, likely is using a not-fully upgraded Relic weapon or somehow managed to not acquire and equip the weapons given during MSQ.
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