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  1. #11
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    Renault's Avatar
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    King Stefan
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by meldon90 View Post
    Didnt notice that to be honest, i'll keep an eye on it.
    Yeah try it out with a healer buddy and check it out. The mana does get refunded by the system, so you won't notice a difference unless you like to play dangerously with your MP. It is an issue only when it makes darkside fall off when it otherwise wouldn't have.
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  2. #12
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Lol I can't resist the urge but to channel Oscar Rogers whenever possible



    Good time to focus on Hunts, that's how I'm making the best of it. Probably could do dungeons raids regardless of the bug, but I'll just take the issue as incentive to do Hunts.. since it's so hard for me to focus on those without any.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    Yeah try it out with a healer buddy and check it out. The mana does get refunded by the system, so you won't notice a difference unless you like to play dangerously with your MP.
    Yea there is a refund, it's possible that it always refunds, or that over the duration of a buff ultimately everything balances out. But it is happening in addition to other CDs/buff that are bugging MP behavior out, not just regens. It ends up being hard for me to monitor/dissect after placing 2 buffs within the same GCD, and just for me I'm not comfortable with such MP fluctuation

    I was testing yesterday and today, the results are never consistent. Sometimes MP is refunded, and sometimes it's the opposite - buffs reduce DS's degen, but when the buff wears off extra MP is eaten. Maybe it always Balances out, but by completely unpredictable means
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 07-02-2015 at 08:11 AM.

  3. #13
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    Lorielle's Avatar
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    Lorielle Kurayami
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    You typically don't notice this in battle because what you are doing is focusing on the enemy and doing your rotations. Your MP going down is something your mind is already accustomed to. So you're just in the habit of "trying to get the MP back". You don't notice how fast you're losing your MP at all unless the amount super significant I.E Dark Passenger + Dark Arts in one go.

    But it any case, I do hope the issue gets fixed. DRK is still playable and doable, but it's definitely annoying that this bug is there.
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  4. #14
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    It's not that it's unplayable, it's that it's not acting properly.

    Though I've already posted in a more productive thread on the issue, I'll clarify for you:

    Regen ticks, poison ticks, spell applications, spells unapplications...ALL drain MP. They are not supposed to, and if you ever have an AST throwing out regen effects and card buffs on you, you WILL feel the difference.
    yes i noticed it, and did test it with against a dummy. all buffs being applied and eventually removed drained MP at a noticable amount.
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  5. #15
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    Kaedan94's Avatar
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by healthetank View Post
    Source for? The known issues post is the same place they always are, front page news or in the announcements forum. The darkside bug is documented in a bunch of reddit posts/bug forum posts as well as my own personal experiences tanking since 3.0.
    They have acknowledge the DA bug, but they have not acknowledged the MP draining bug... which is what the OP (and many of us) is concerned about.
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  6. #16
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    SorriorDragneel's Avatar
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    Sorrior Draconus
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 80
    So is THIS why I can go from near full mana to none in a few seconds sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
    Yes, they all sitting around the Feymarch hanging together... Menphina, Shiva. and Garuda discuss how hard it is to find decent footwear, and Ifrit and Titan keep having to apologize to Halone and Rhalgr for missing triple triad night because they keep being summoned...

  7. #17
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    Raubahn's Arm
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    They have acknowledge the DA bug, but they have not acknowledged the MP draining bug... which is what the OP (and many of us) is concerned about.
    The op is me. The person you're replying to. Yes, I'm concerned.
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  8. #18
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by healthetank View Post
    The op is me. The person you're replying to. Yes, I'm concerned.
    Oops, I think I meant to quote the other person you were talking too. Sorry, lol.

    But yeah, I'm also worried that they didn't acknowledge the extra MP ticks too.
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  9. #19
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    Silver-dream's Avatar
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    Kinra Chaotix
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I main drk myself it is a pain in the backside when mp being drain by DA as well healer HOTS and Buffs.
    Find Blood price being my best friend with syphon once I've established enmity on pulls. but also carry mp pots just in case need that extra boost in mp. if got AST in your group, find Ewer helps ease that mp drain to a small degree. With AST that was aware of the DRK bug wanted to try it out, it seem to work and reduce mp usage. if only by small amount.

    Hope they fix this soon because on fights were got boss fraying around like headless chicken mechanic, when mp drain hits hard from hots ticking.

    It going be rough till they fix it, but it durable. Hope they fix it asap as It seem DRK full of bugs right now, even DA aura is bug from what I hear.
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  10. #20
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    I don't DRK but do heal & this definitely seems a potentially damaging bug. I'd recommend that you post a new bug report concentrating on this issue *alone*, using the official template.

    Hopefully that way you will know for certain whether they class it as a bug or as intended. Good luck.
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