Changing DRK to DPS entirely?

[Kiteless]

No, Path is just one aspect of the general idea of OT utility that DRK is lacking. WAR/WAR, WAR/PLD, PLD/War, and PLD/PLD are all more efficient tanking compositions than any involving a DRK. Both tanks have better mitigation, both tanks have better team utility, and one tank definitely does more damage, while the other one might be able to as well. What does DRK do?

[stoxastic]

Did someone just say they DON'T want LNC cross class skills on DRK? wtffff it could single handedly almost solve all of DRKs problems.

[PerihVashai]

No, Path is just one aspect of the general idea of OT utility that DRK is lacking. WAR/WAR, WAR/PLD, PLD/War, and PLD/PLD are all more efficient tanking compositions than any involving a DRK. Both tanks have better mitigation, both tanks have better team utility, and one tank definitely does more damage, while the other one might be able to as well. What does DRK do?

WAR/WAR
- no int debuff(lack of monk will bite you here), as a main tank in a similar situation to ramuh has more effective mitigation than a WAR WAR, yes this including if every shockstrike gets inner beasted because the DRK will be sitting on 40-50% mitigation on all of them. Raw intuition gets rendered useless and thrill of battle as a defensive GCD is laughable, it's just a free cure in the grand scheme of things. While thrill of battle can give you the HP to survive an attack it doesn't help with effective mitigation and became worse with lustrate not getting a cure boost from it anymore.

PLD/PLD
- At least a DRK would bring the int debuff. That's more at least than a second PLD would bring. Reprisal could be an argument but that's not going to happen against a magic boss.

DRK/WAR is going to be the best "team" if there is a boss similar to ramuh/ultima

PLD/WAR will be for all else, unless something happens to DRK

Did someone just say they DON'T want LNC cross class skills on DRK? wtffff it could single handedly almost solve all of DRKs problems.

People are silly, but there are other ways to fix DRK this is just one of the many simple things that could be done. Then they'd need dark dance reworked and the ability to bring the STR debuff. With all those it could actually be a decent tank class. Still hard to replace WAR as an OT

[Kelg]

I would like this, but it won't happen.

[Ceodore]

So, stacks of ED

[PerihVashai]

I would like this, but it won't happen.

Yep it'd be neigh impossible to rationalize blood for blood from a development perspective and they'd get criticized for bad job design and the ability to allow it to take more damage when its use should be seldom in a MT situation. Especially considering moves like this were apart of the traditional dark knight mentality. But I'd have to agree as much as I would like this it wouldn't happen as well.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Dark Knight is a tanking class, if you want a plate wearing DPS class we already have Dragoons.

I do think DRK should be Lancer/Marauder/Gladiator though.

But honestly - giving us Lancer skills wouldn't be a good idea. You would have a lot of balance concerns and DRK just isn't a DPS. Nore does it have the TP problems warrior has. It doesn't need invigorate.

[Ditto]

Nore does it have the TP problems warrior has. It doesn't need invigorate.

Good lord my sides are in space.

It's clear you've never touched a Drk or a Warrior once in your life.

Nor read ANY of the biggest complaints about Drk's on this forum.

[Anger]

I'm not going to attempt to invalidate any of the statements made by posters about Dark Knight, as i'm sure at least some of the people making these statements have done proper testing. I just find it interesting that some speak as if SE won't address problems if they exist. As they are now, Dark Knight "can" perform in the role it was created for; they can tank (I won't argue about being better or worse than the other tanks, that's already been covered). Eventually SE will tweak things that need tweaking, so the forum posts are useful (not saying don't post), but there shouldn't be a need to act like the job will have these flaws forever.

Regardless of changes, regardless of which tank is better on paper in any instance, a lot of the gameplay relies on the player's knowledge and ability to play the job. You will still have paladins that excel, and others that stink, and yet others who are average. That being the case, you will also likely play with dark knights who run content better than other tanks you've played with, even now.

Yes, I realize i'm only a level 52 dark knight, which is why i'm not commenting on class deficiencies etc. However, I realize that as I play and get used to the 16 keybinds on my mouse I suck less and less every day I play.

Even if a dark knight is squishier, as long as he's not squishier because he's being dumb, shouldn't a healer view that as an opportunity to show off his/her skill? Perhaps i'm viewing this in the wrong light, but if the game was totally easy and required no skill to play, what would be the point of playing it? I'd rather just play a mobile phone game in that case.

You're failing to realize the Paladin and Warrior both have niches they can fill and a purpose. One does something better than the other. The DRK has no real edge.

[Anger]

Stacks of ED, bro.