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  1. #61
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    Azzbad Hei
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
    Well If you read what I stated I have been "HEARING" those numbers which I think is crazy. I did NOT state that warrior HAS 10k-15k fell cleave crits, or are you afraid that you class might get a nerf? If they are preforming within SE expectations nothing will happen. All I am stating is what I "Heard" which is second hand information no need to get bent out of shape.
    Well, what I READ is a troll trying to surf on the fell crits story or a very uninformed player quoting bullshit.
    That's first hand info. Feel free to use it.
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  2. #62
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
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    On the forums, hear say is fact!
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  3. #63
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    Mayong Mistmoore
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    My opinion on the matter is, PLD already has the top mitigation, it should by right be the bottom in dps.
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    Content too hard? Too much rng? Too much effort for the item you want?

  4. #64
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    Swarley Mcswarlington
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    Strange how these numbers are getting bigger and bigger. Do they have ilvl 200 gear or something?
    Dude, I saw a 25k fell cleave!
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  5. #65
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    Falgern Snow
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    What is math?
    What is the reality that Drks can put out 2400 Potency through 3 Soul eaters and Warriors cannot. You want to Infuriate to get in another Fell cleave? Thats cute, I drop Salted earth, which is 525 AOE potency off the GCD on a 45s Cooldown to Infuriate Fell Cleaves 500 potency on 60s.
    Butchers block combo is the highest potency War has...
    150 HS, 200 SS, 280 BB = 630. DRKS soul eater combo is 800 potency (150, 250, 400). You get 2 Stacks per BB combo...

    1260 vs 1600 potency for 2 rotations. Now do the rotation up to Skull sunder so we get our 5th stack, thats 1610 Potency, 8 attacks used so far. Fell Cleave is the 9th GCD attack, brings us to 2110 potency.


    Drk just his DA Soul eater 3x and does 2400 potency. We infuriate Fell cleave we're at 2610 potency, they drop Salted earth and they're at 2925 potency...
    Want to consider that Fracture is 300 potency and Scourge is 500 potency too?
    After all these shenanigans we throw in Fracture for 2910, they Scourge and are effectively at 3425.

    Whats the damage difference? Drk has 17% more Potency. Want to throw in Plunge which is also off the GCD? Want to throw in Dark Passenger on top? Hell we could throw in reprisal if the situation allows it, its off the GCD as well.

    Just in this segment Drk already has 17% more potency. Note that Berserk? Deliverance? They're working to go against this potency gap between War and Drk (well Blood Weapon exists too). Tank damage difference is not large, sorry buddy.

    If anything what makes War stand out more objectively and not just "I see big numbers" is Unchained while tanking, and Equilibrium replenishing TP where PLD and Drk don't have a TP refresh.
    You're just looking at raw potency.

    Maim is 20% increased damage dealt. Darkside is 15%

    And looking at what you said, the drk would have no mp left after your three rotations, meaning back to spamming delirium for a 280 potency combo where as the warrior would just keep doing 500 potency attacks at a constant rate.

    Don't look at raw potency, you have to look at what the class can actually do, not just in fantasy.
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  6. #66
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    Malakaz Vosoma
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Azzbad View Post
    Well, what I READ is a troll trying to surf on the fell crits story or a very uninformed player quoting bullshit.
    That's first hand info. Feel free to use it.
    Wonderful I am now a troll trying to surf on fell cleave crits, hmm I wonder who is being abusive here? If you need to insult someone to get your point across it shows you maturity level. Hence the abusive comments? On other news as I said if SE feel warrior is fine nothing will happen people who do play warrior and parse regularly say its fine who am I to argue? We just have to wait and see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR View Post
    On the forums, hear say is fact!
    I will indeed remember that. XD
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    Last edited by shinros; 07-01-2015 at 11:58 AM.

  7. #67
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    Mercutio Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Even if they nerf Warrior for the imagined slight against the other tanks, I'm still going to play it. Just like I did when people laughed at me in Titan because Warriors were useless as MT (back when he was *hard*). Dark Knights need to realize that SE doesn't hate them and should put the razors down before they cut themselves.
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    Last edited by Riastrad; 07-01-2015 at 11:57 AM.

  8. #68
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    Even if they nerf Warrior for the imagined slight against the other tanks, I'm still going to play it. Just like I did when people laughed at me in Titan (back when he was *hard*). Dark Knights need to realize that SE doesn't hate them and should put the razors down before they cut themselves.
    Honestly I am fine with DRK as it currently stands yeah its needs some QOL and slight adjustments but some people are talking like its 2.0 warrior. If the SE see's classes under or over preforming in Alexander they will adjust accordingly they have been rather good at that so far.
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  9. #69
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    Sol Darkwater
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    Lamia
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    Miner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Falgern View Post

    Maim is 20% increased damage dealt. Darkside is 15%
    + 5% from deliverance
    + 10% crit rate on their major attacks
    + berserk CD to multiply all their other cooldowns
    + access to internal release
    + instant infuriate
    + 10% damage from slashing debuff
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
    Honestly I am fine with DRK as it currently stands yeah its needs some QOL and slight adjustments but some people are talking like its 2.0 warrior. If the SE see's classes under or over preforming in Alexander they will adjust accordingly they have been rather good at that so far.
    That's exactly right. When Alexander comes around, the Devs will see Dark Knight in a true raid setting and the changes will come flooding out. Just like what happened to Warriors. This isn't about what nerfs they should hand out, but about what buffs they should give out.
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    Last edited by Riastrad; 07-01-2015 at 02:11 PM.
    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

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