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  1. #11
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    deos's Avatar
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    Koromo Amae
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 89
    well, its kind of ok to take heal buffs away for "abilities", but they need to at least scale with warrior defiance!!!
    the way it is now is really unfair on healers with a warrior tank -.-

    ... or maybe its time to kick all WAR tanks (im not serious, but think about it)
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  2. #12
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    Naryoril's Avatar
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    Y'sira Nia
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by deos View Post
    well, its kind of ok to take heal buffs away for "abilities", but they need to at least scale with warrior defiance!!!
    the way it is now is really unfair on healers with a warrior tank -.-
    My thoughts exactly. I can live with abilities not being affected, since you can use them while silenced and they are not affected by lower healing either. But they must scale with a warrior's defiance.
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  3. #13
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    TonberiScholar's Avatar
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    Esmond Sage
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Naryoril View Post
    My thoughts exactly. I can live with abilities not being affected, since you can use them while silenced and they are not affected by lower healing either. But they must scale with a warrior's defiance.
    Yeah, Warriors are now the hardest tank for SCH to heal, it's pretty annoying.

    Rather embarrassing when a buffed Embrace crit can almost outdo our "big" heal.
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  4. #14
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TonberiScholar View Post
    Yeah, Warriors are now the hardest tank for SCH to heal, it's pretty annoying.

    Rather embarrassing when a buffed Embrace crit can almost outdo our "big" heal.
    Now we're exaggerating a little

    Lustrate still heals like a truck. At i171 with an i180 weapon it's hitting for ~3.8-3.9k, nearly 6k on crits.

    At extremely high HP levels (but who runs a fully VIT-spec WAR?) you can still heal less than 25% of their HP, but it's not that bad.
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  5. #15
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Hmm, does Convalescence not affect those "healing abilities" as well now?
    Seems like an overall nerf to healers AND tanks. -_-

    (Speaking as a tank)
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  6. #16
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I was disappointed to learn we won't be able to buff our new toys but... I think the issues are a bit exaggerated here. It's still the GCD spells that will be doing the bulk of our healing, and the fancy new oGCDs are just extra (although very nice extras) on top of our main tools.
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  7. #17
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I was disappointed to learn we won't be able to buff our new toys but... I think the issues are a bit exaggerated here. It's still the GCD spells that will be doing the bulk of our healing, and the fancy new oGCDs are just extra (although very nice extras) on top of our main tools.
    My thoughts exactly. Besides, having the oGCDs be extremely powerful for healing non-tanks is a reasonable trade-off for having them be potentially less effective at healing the very highest HP tanks.
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  8. #18
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Goblin
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    I'm p annoyed by this. Sure, they're oGCD and cost no mana, but I expect things that buff all my healing to actually buff all my healing. This is a silly distinction that shouldn't be put into place.
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  9. #19
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    I'm p annoyed by this. Sure, they're oGCD and cost no mana, but I expect things that buff all my healing to actually buff all my healing. This is a silly distinction that shouldn't be put into place.
    The balancing cost of that would be a weaker baseline. As is, Lustrate, Tetragrammaton, etc-- their potencies are quite high. Assize is a bit less, but when you consider it gives MP back for essentially using an equivalent to one of our highest cost spells...

    Well, it looks like we can't have everything. So... I'd rather have the strong baseline.
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  10. #20
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    Crim Raioh
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    Lamia
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    Scholar Lv 60
    If this is true is dissipation even worth using for anything but the most desperate situations. the main reason i would use it was for the Aether flow stacks and was out. in most situations its just hard to justify killing your fairy. especially since you then need to re-summon it using a large amount of mp and swift cast. i would rather get no % increase 3 temporary aether flow stacks that stack separate from the standard ones and pet auto re-summons after 30s (unused stacks disappear).

    i would also prefer they give old lustrate back and just disable all healing during cleric stance if that's what they want. this new version seems messy and counter intuitive to learning players.

    or hell lock cleric stance to out of combat activation only like the AST stances. this seems like the worst of all choices.
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