Disappointing sales. The Elder Scrolls Online outsells Heavensward.

[sirDarts]

My post wasn't a joke. A market as big as the UK is a ample sample size to see how the game is selling in other markets worldwide.

The only difference will be Japan as there game market is very different from the rest of the world.

A good example would be this. The X box one only sold 100 units last week in Japan yes you read that right ONLY 100 http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-reaches-a...ium=Socialflow

Actually UK is not a good sample for online games.
For example League of Legends, the biggest online game of the last 4 or so years, has VERY few UK players (% of population) compared to almost any other EU country.

[odintius]

Ohhh a numbers game this should be interesting...

[Dement]

My post wasn't a joke. A market as big as the UK is a ample sample size to see how the game is selling in other markets worldwide.

The only difference will be Japan as there game market is very different from the rest of the world.

A good example would be this. The X box one only sold 100 units last week in Japan yes you read that right ONLY 100 http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-reaches-a...ium=Socialflow

Unfortunately there are other variables that make the UK a terrible sample, though. As others have stated, your original post only shows retail sales of the game. Most people bought digitally unless they wanted the physical CE. This further poses a problem because if I remember right, the CE was grossly over-priced in the UK (you can correct me if I'm wrong and they fixed it) as SE never actually performed the conversion of dollars to pounds and just deemed that $130 dollars and 130 pounds were the same thing. As such, the physical CE (again the only reason most people bought retail) is likely to see even lower sales in the UK than in the US or Japan.

[Tuathaa]

You know, if you check Steam, it's also around that area, ranked 7th, just above Fallout 4 (which isn't even released yet, congratulations Yoshi, your game beat a pre-order!)

I am surprised if anything beat out Fallout 4 went it went up for pre order. It has a huge world wide near fanatical playerbase that has been waiting a very long time.

[Catwho]

Not to be mean but you really think that makes a difference? Are UK gamers that much different than JP or US gamers, prob not. The fact the servers didn't crash for a week like you guys predicted goes to show that heavensward wasn't the second coming for FFXIV people thought it was.

I love FFXIV, but even I can see the game has problems. And white knighting the game isn't going to help anyone. That being said, i think ffxiv is in a pretty good place for now.

Clearly you weren't on Aether data center.

On that note, Heavensward PS4 and PC physical copies were completely sold out of the local Gamestop (Georgia, in the US) as of last week. (A friend was there for something else and inquired.) The only thing left is PS3 physical copies, because nobody loves the PS3 any more.

[Keylus]

Do people even buy retail games anymore? I can't remember the last time I bought a game that wasn't a digital download. So, my purchases will never be in those figures.

Last time I bought a retail game was for a girl I like and was because that game had no option to gift the digital version, I only took the serial number and sent it to her

[MortalWare]

The game had restricted physical sales also. At one stage we didn't even know if a physical CE was going to be offered on sale in Australia and when it finally was it was $300.

So retail statistics probably aren't the best to use since it wasn't made as available at retail as it was digitally.

[Solaria_Luna]

More people buy MMO's on a console digitally becuase they can't trade them in or sell them to gamestop.

Yup, I think the physical copy is treated like the way PC games are. (since you see no one selling used PC games...which means they don't take em)

On that note, Heavensward PS4 and PC physical copies were completely sold out of the local Gamestop (Georgia, in the US) as of last week. (A friend was there for something else and inquired.) The only thing left is PS3 physical copies, because nobody loves the PS3 any more.

Yes true, the only copy of ARR I see in one location of GameStop is for PS3...PC and PS4 are sold out...I guess if I ever do upgrade to a PS4 I'm gonna have to go digital for that...and probably the expansion. (lol I think from that particular store I got the very last PC copy of ARR - I have the uncanny ability to get last copies of things)

[Taban]

I'm not sure about the retail vs digital sales, but playing ESO I know that they've only got two servers for the PS4 version one NA and one EU, that leads me to believe that it's probably not quite as big as ffxiv, though I could be mistaken.

[MortalWare]

I'm not sure about the retail vs digital sales, but playing ESO I know that they've only got two servers for the PS4 version one NA and one EU, that leads me to believe that it's probably not quite as big as ffxiv, though I could be mistaken.

I believe ESO uses Mega, or 'channelized', servers though. Meaning it's one big server that puts players in seperate channels as they fill up. FFXIV uses stand alone servers.