Dark Arts Trick >:)

[dank1]

Thanks guy for pointing this out to them

[Muchmidget]

I saw someone in another thread claim they broke Abyssal Drain and Dark passenger as the DA effects only happen on the first mob hit. Anyone that can confirm this?

[JayCommon]

Thanks guy for pointing this out to them

Yeah, no problem. The thread on reddit from a week ago surely didn't garner any attention.

I would rather play with a job that is working as intended and not exploiting the shit out of a broken skill, but that's just me. Guess you will just have to learn to get good if you relied on this bugged application for damage. I, on the other hand, will be just fine tanking every single piece of the hardest content available in the game.

We still need TP regen though.

[Marveth]

I saw someone in another thread claim they broke Abyssal Drain and Dark passenger as the DA effects only happen on the first mob hit. Anyone that can confirm this?

It's been confirmed and is being reported by numerous players in the bug report forum.

[Avalon_Albrook]

Yeah, no problem. The thread on reddit from a week ago surely didn't garner any attention.

I would rather play with a job that is working as intended and not exploiting the shit out of a broken skill, but that's just me. Guess you will just have to learn to get good if you relied on this bugged application for damage. I, on the other hand, will be just fine tanking every single piece of the hardest content available in the game.

We still need TP regen though.

No one needed it or relied on it. While we had it, it was fun as hell to use. Doing serious burst damage on Ravana EX with some lucky crits meant getting two Souleaters, a Carve and Spit and a Dark Passenger all under just two Dark Arts for a TON of damage. Getting a 2k+ hit, a 2.5k+ hit, a 3.5k hit and another 2.5k+ hit all in 4 GCDs (accounting for building the combo back up) felt beautiful to see. Not necessary, but glorious all the same. RIP that burst.

[Ditto]

Yeah, no problem. The thread on reddit from a week ago surely didn't garner any attention.

I would rather play with a job that is working as intended and not exploiting the shit out of a broken skill, but that's just me. Guess you will just have to learn to get good if you relied on this bugged application for damage. I, on the other hand, will be just fine tanking every single piece of the hardest content available in the game.

We still need TP regen though.

My god you have the perfect attitude for a Paladin.

[JayCommon]

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Yeah, it was a ton of damage and it was also obviously broken. I didn't say I didn't have fun with it. I even said in my first response to have fun with it while it lasts, because...again...it was obviously broken.

My god you have the perfect attitude for a Paladin.

Not exactly sure what that is supposed to mean...but if the person I directed that too honestly thinks that my post...which was created 11hrs after the notice for maintenance came up on the Forums caused them to "notice this bug" and fix it... he can receive that attitude indefinitely.

[Riastrad]

Bahahaha. Saving 1 Dark Arts worth of MP every 45 seconds didn't carry anyone's party through EX runs.

It was more a QOL / convenience thing. Now we have a figure out how to optimally DA both CAS and SE. Also, DA Dark Passenger is probably never going to happen again.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the Ravana EX clears that took advantage of the auto attack only bug. Just forgot to separate the thoughts is all.

But hey, who am I to judge the people that took advantage? (j/k, I'm going to judge those people harshly).

[Xenosan]

Guess you will just have to learn to get good if you relied on this bugged application for damage. I, on the other hand, will be just fine tanking every single piece of the hardest content available in the game.

We still need TP regen though.

smh

Some potency math worth looking at post hotfix:

GCD + oGCD = Potency || (DA): Dark Arts buff, DP: Dark Passenger, C&S: Carve & Split
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Delirium + (DA) C&S = 730
Delirium + (DA) DP = 530
Souleater + (DA) C&S = 710
Souleater + (DA) DP = 510
(DA) Souleater + C&S = 500
(DA) Souleater + DP = 550
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C&S every 60 seconds, DP every 30 seconds
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For maximum potency of DP/C&S/DA
Use Dark Passenger with buffed Souleater every 30 seconds

Use buffed C&S every 60 seconds with Delirium
...

edit: Just for comparison's sake

(DA) Souleater + (DA) C&S = 950
(DA) Souleater + (DA) DP = 650

730 from 950 (No longer with a 400 potency self heal)
550 from 650 (No longer Blind debuff)

Ouch

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More important than DPS is the fact we've lost a 400 potency self heal whenever C&S comes off CD (have to settle with 260 if any, and that's a dps loss)

More reason now than before they need to give some enhancement to Souleater (Ignore Grit penalty? HP absorb over max health?) or make the 'if/or' of buffing C&S justified (Keep MP rejuv when buffed, or unbuffed C&S yield twice/triple the amount of MP it currently does & reset Dark Arts recast).

[JayCommon]

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Jokes aside, that would still only be an off-tank rotation. Your not going to want to pass up on a self-heal if your MT for 20 potency. Maybe unless there is no Monk in the group I guess. And honestly, unless they give us some kind of tool to regain our TP none of off-tank rotations based solely off damage matter because we won't be taken into content as an off-tank over a warrior when they see us spamming enmity MP moves after 3mins :\

And yeah yeah I see your post from page 2. I can be the scapegoat in your eyes if you want, but this is still true regardless:

but if the person I directed that too honestly thinks that my post...which was created 11hrs after the notice for maintenance came up on the Forums caused them to "notice this bug" and fix it... he can receive that attitude indefinitely.

i will also smh