Estinien (spoilers)

[Fenral]

The issue here is that what happened to her is something wasnt give any importace at all. Even she say to mayota "nah I will be fine" lol. Anyway what happened was kind of weird. But I only ndertood is that she can see but she can also see aeather ( explains the change to her eyes )

It's about as important as Gear Second. They'll mention that it uses her life force and move on. No idea how much it uses, so it may be that it uses just a teensy tiny bit at a time, and, at the true end to the MS, assuming she hasn't found a way to see normally again, she'll decide to let herself go blind and live out the rest of her life.

[lololink]

Did you not even bother to read the quote I was responding to? It can be, to people not famliar with the idiom.

It's not really an issue, it's easily understandable, but there were people having trouble understanding "laid with a dragon" too so you never know...

Shakespearian way of speaking with some chars, this must be really annoying, I know that some players I play with have troubles because they don't have their languages supported by the game so they play in english and everytime middy is talking they are like " What the fuck is he saying ?"

[Frederick22]

It's about as important as Gear Second. They'll mention that it uses her life force and move on. No idea how much it uses, so it may be that it uses just a teensy tiny bit at a time, and, at the true end to the MS, assuming she hasn't found a way to see normally again, she'll decide to let herself go blind and live out the rest of her life.

How things end Y'shtola will still be heloing us and for that she will still need to "see" e.e
Not that she will resing and not helping us anymore.
Even worse, insteal of Alisale, I starting to think that Y'shtola will become our guide on alexander, instead of Alisale, but given her importance in MS, i may be wrong

[Viridiana]

Did you not even bother to read the quote I was responding to? It can be, to people not famliar with the idiom.

That doesn't make it fancy or obfuscating. It just means some people don't know the phrase.

[Fenral]

That doesn't make it fancy or obfuscating. It just means some people don't know the phrase.

Changing something with a plain and concise meaning to something harder for people to understand is called...?

[Viridiana]

Changing something with a plain and concise meaning to something harder for people to understand is called...?

Some people not knowing the phrase doesn't make it a hard phrase to understand. It means that, for whatever reason, those people haven't been exposed to the phrase before and can't guess its meaning.

[Fenral]

Some people not knowing the phrase doesn't make it a hard phrase to understand. It means that, for whatever reason, those people haven't been exposed to the phrase before and can't guess its meaning.

You're defending the localization against something that was never meant as an attack. There's a towel. I'm throwing it in.

[Allyrion]

Her eyes looked blind after she came out of the Lifestream. They were a deep blue before.
As soon as my wife saw Y'shtola in the inn where you see her eyes clearly, she asked if she was blind now.

But eye colors can be changed in a fantasy like this for other reasons.
The conversation and turn of phrase was just confirmation.
Even if you didn't understand "the lights leave your eyes" part, "seeing through the aether" should have given the meaning in the context of all the other hints.

I think the english can something be unclear, to the point that certain things are lost even if you understand all the phrasing perfectly.
But this isn't really one of those cases. I think there was enough.

But to play the devil's advocate, I will say that light leaving the eyes is also a well known phrase for dying.
Both meanings can be applied to Y'shtola, since she came back from the Lifestream. That's something of a resurrection.
If taken out of context of the other hints, Matoya could've easily been saying "You've been to the Lifestream (but you've returned)" or "When did you die?".

But yea, I think there was enough to get the proper meaning either way.

The issue here is that what happened to her is something wasnt give any importace at all. Even she say to mayota "nah I will be fine" lol. Anyway what happened was kind of weird. But I only ndertood is that she can see but she can also see aeather ( explains the change to her eyes )

I think them talking about it so cryptically gave it more importance than if they had a conversation about it.
Since if it's a big thing, they couldn't really talk about it deeply with the events happening at that time.
Plus, Y'shtola also played off using forbidden magic and visiting the Lifestream in that same conversation. That's just how she is.

[papichulo123]

He became what he was fighting his enemy. I loved it now we have to fight him again and save him such a amazing story loved it

[Samcaesar]

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It was never a war for Nidhogg, it was an act of revenge because he had his sister's life stolen and nearly his own as well (Til well Hravselgar saved his rear for a 1000 years). This entire series of events occurred because of a few Elezen and a lust for power, so Nidhogg did what he felt was right and killed Thordan, then afterwards Thordan's son and the Knights Twelve then went to Nidhogg's domain and nearly killed him in an act of revenge. Again, Nidhogg and the dragons allied with him give the Ishgardians a way to redeem themselves, drink Dragon's Blood and turn into a dragon (Or heck, just be a heretic, the dragons blood seems to be an option considering how many Elezen heretics there are). Does Ishgard even begin to offer Nidhogg peace? Do they even think of offering to hand over the eyes and see if maybe that would have caused the war to end? Or do they even consider in the 1000 years the war has been going on of using Nidhogg's eyes as a way to contain Nidhogg instead or just outright killing him?

Let's be honest, Hravselgar had the ability to rein in Nidhogg, it was his eye keeping him alive. Why didn't he? Well it's kind of obvious, Ishgard did some terrible things and refused to let themselves suffer the consequences. No matter what way you spin this, it is Ishgard's fault for the war. Thordan's lust for power started it, his son's quest of revenge spurned it on further, the Holy See (And a vast majority of Ishgardians being supporters of the Holy See) garnered support against the dragons and even persecuted those trying to redeem Ishgard's name.

Ishgard, or rather Thordan and his knights, may have started the war. But it was clearly Nidhogg the one who prologed the war.

Actually, Hraevselgar kept Nidhogg alive through giving him half his power, so if you want to blame any dragon, blame him. As well, what do you say of Ishgard, who persecuted heretics? I don't get how "Nidhogg and his brood being slaughtered" is peaceful, but "Ishgard and those who keep Nidhogg's eyes from him being slaughtered" isn't. Is it allegiance? Because we sympathize with those in Ishgard because of Hauchefant and Aymeric? I'd say it is. I mean, even Aymeric himself said "If Ishgard is wiped out, then the dragons will go back", so Nidhogg doesn't care for all Elezen or races of man, he just hates Ishgard, and rightfully so.