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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    All I hear from you are johns. If you want to sit and heal and do nothing else go play XI - you get to quite literally sit on your butt while not healing.
    Or they could play the way they want....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Or they could play the way they want....
    You're always welcome to play the way you want (badly) on your own time without bringing your group down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    You're always welcome to play the way you want (badly) on your own time without bringing your group down.
    Funny how there are different people with different play styles, if you ever group up with her in DF and the rest of your group feels the way you do, there is a kick option. No-one here is asking you to play with her. Also not really "bringing the group down" as you put it. Group content isn't designed with healer dps factored in, any dps you get from your healer is a boon, but not having it simply keeps things at the baseline.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidra View Post
    that's very selfish, short-sighted
    Demanding others acquisition to your play-style choice in order to benefit your time isn't exactly altruistic either. If the rest of your group doesn't have an issue with it you'll just have to deal or leave. If they feel the same, by all means kick the player in question.
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    Last edited by SDaemon; 06-29-2015 at 01:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Funny how there are different people with different play styles, if you ever group up with her in DF and the rest of your group feels the way you do, there is a kick option. No-one here is asking you to play with her. Also not really "bringing the group down" as you put it. Group content isn't designed with healer dps factored in, any dps you get from your healer is a boon, but not having it simply keeps things at the baseline.



    Demanding others acquisition to your play-style choice in order to benefit your time isn't exactly altruistic either. If the rest of your group doesn't have an issue with it you'll just have to deal or leave. If they feel the same, by all means kick the player in question.
    Blablablah it doesn't matter if it's designed for it or not. It is unquestionably a sign of maximizing your potential to dps if you have time to do so. So tired of having this conversation with lazy healers over and over.

    If you want to be suboptimal thats fine, but lets stop pretending you can pull the "that's not my job" (When have you ever heard this from a productive person in real life - oh wait that's right, never.) card and acting like you're the best.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 06-29-2015 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Blablablah it doesn't matter if it's designed for it or not. It is unquestionably a sign of maximizing your potential to dps if you have time to do so. So tired of having this conversation with lazy healers over and over.

    If you want to be suboptimal thats fine, but lets stop pretending you can pull the "that's not my job" (When have you ever heard this from a productive person in real life - oh wait that's right, never.) card and acting like you're the best.
    It isn't a healers responsibility within the group to maximize their dps. If you want your healer to dps then group with a healer that chooses that playstyle. It isn't that hard to do.
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    You guys are ridiculous, I swear.

    "It isn't my responsibility", "it isn't my job", "content isn't designed around me DPSing", "DEVs didn't intend me to play in such way".

    lol.

    Watch, it's this simple. You have a job with 50 spells. You are only using 30. You are not optimal. Go apply for blue garter or lucrezia and put in your CV that as a healer, you don't like DPSing but that you are still optimal.

    Your problem is that you take the words "you are not being optimal" as a personal insult to your "playstyle" rather than objective feedback. Optimal doesn't always match with what you like guys (*I don't like DPSing so I only heal but I'm still optimal* -nope it doesn't work that way-).

    But at this point, I feel that you just want to hear what you want to hear:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__Thtao6vc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
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    Then it sounds like you're just as lazy in real life as you are in game. I'm sure you pretend to be the most effective person there too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    You guys are ridiculous, I swear.

    "It isn't my responsibility", "it isn't my job", "content isn't designed around me DPSing", "DEVs didn't intend me to play in such way".

    lol.

    Watch, it's this simple. You have a job with 50 spells. You are only using 30. You are not optimal. Go apply for blue garter or lucrezia and put in your CV that as a healer, you don't like DPSing but that you are still optimal.

    Your problem is that you take the words "you are not being optimal" as a personal insult to your "playstyle" rather than objective feedback. Optimal doesn't always match with what you like guys (*I don't like DPSing so I only heal but I'm still optimal* -nope it doesn't work that way-).
    Amen.
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