A serious discussion about abridging the story quest 1-50 (discouraging new players)

[RichardButte]

why is so hard to understand that just as you consider doing dungeon, lving with friend etc to be important and u want to do that unrestricted i consider gating content behind story to be an important feature of the game so there happy?

Because whether or not my friend is gated behind content is 100% IRRELEVANT TO YOUR ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME!

And it will get much much much worse in 3.0, like MUCH worse, the amount of "gating content" there is so in your face.

Sigh...

You've been beating this drum for like 10 pages now and, even though we've pointed out why you're wrong, you go right on beating it...

For starters, no, 3.0's story quest has NO WHERE NEAR the amount of pointless fetch questing that the MSQ until 50 had. Everything I do is generally important. The worst offender is when my team all split up to gather items for the Gnath while I went and killed some monsters to get their meat. Meanwhile, the other members did their own thing and gathered their own items that were necessary.

In 2.5, they would've made the player do ALL OF THAT...

Second, the problem with the 50 MSQ is that you CANNOT get any help while doing it, except for the instanced content. I can't help my friend run from one end of a zone to the other, just to mash through some dialogue about collecting tea leaves or some other pointless bullshit.

If I could somehow DO this for my friends, I would, but I can't, not unless I borrow their login and grind through that shit for them (which SE expressly forbids in the ToS, FYI).

Please, PLEASE, PLEASE at least come up with a new argument or something.

It's like trying to argue with a "flat-earther"...

"The Earth is flat."

"No, it's round. Here's a video of it from space, here are the calculations made by the greeks 2,000 years ago when they figured out its circumference and the shadow on the moon cast by the Earth is round."

"Uh but, no, the Earth is flat."

"..."