Game population by the numbers.

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The description you make Reminds me a lot of Guild wars 1 at launch.

Which is funny, because I didn't experience any problems with GW1 at launch. Been playing for years. Only problem I ever had was with a couple patches near launch. :>

And what do you think they were doing? playing wow? secretely watching porn? come on.

Obviously they weren't refining their product if release for AoC was so terrible... They we're probably creating marketing ideas for launch or solving large-scale problems like networking.

Rushed games have a lot to do with that danger i told before. Biting more than you can chew. All developers have to draw a line (or even more, publishers draw that line for them) on when a game has to start generating a revenue.
The fact that ArenaNet didn't announce a release date doesn't mean that NCsoft is going to fund them forever. A release will have to come, as the "it's ready when it's ready" is just a nice marketing catchphrase.
The true one is "it'll be ready when the publisher says so".

Again... you fail to recognize ArenaNet as a separate entity from NCsoft. "It's ready when it's ready" may very well be a marketing catchphrase... but if it was, why is that mantra ultimately harming them? In the long-run and short-term it would be easier to toss out a release date to produce even more hype. People have been anticipating this game since it was announced back in 2007/2008, I don't think it does them much good to deny their fans a release date unless they were entirely sure they weren't ready yet.

Developers don't rush game because they want to rush them. They rush games because their "grand plan" included more stuff that they could get accomplished, and/or because the publisher rushed them.

This still isn't an excuse for obvious glitches that should've been covered in alpha. lol

Besides, if we're talking XIV here... SE had more than enough money to continue development for several more months before launch and kept a gigantic disaster from happening.

Aside from the fact that EA has released some quality game in the last few years, NCsoft's fame isn't much better. Remember Tabula rasa. Even there NCsoft was just the publisher and Richard Garriot wasn't exactly a newbie of the industry.

... ArenaNet had absolutely no part in Tabula Rasa whatsoever. Why are you bringing it up? lol

That's like me comparing Kayne and Lynch to XIV. There's pretty much no relation there, aside from the fact that they were both published by the same company.



Anyway, I'm pretty much done debating this... lol

I (almost) feel bad for derailing the OP's thread.