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  1. #61
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    Vallhallix's Avatar
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    Your smn is not even 60...
    It's 56 but I have eyes. SMN's rotation is still straight forward it hasn't changed like blms. Only thing that's different now is stronger AoEs, pet buffs, and a 15 sec damage buff. You're still doing the same thing you've always done with only superficial differences. The buffs to the class just made it even more easier to be honest. I kill trash even faster now with more mana to spare. Used to be you couldn't even spam ruin II without running low.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 06-27-2015 at 01:40 AM.

  2. #62
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    yeah and 88% of the summoners I see still can't use a proper rotation or snapshots their dots correctly/use bahamut trance correctly.

    So much for the easiest class.
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  3. #63
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    Vallhallix's Avatar
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    A lot of that comes from newcomers being lazy and not using all of smns tools, but I don't think bad players should be evidence of a class being complex. Afterall blm was the most straight forward class before 3.0 and there were still people bad at it. There were some people who would get hit by every single AoE lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashquar View Post
    Likewise. I main scholar and I got bored of it this week. Switched back to Summoner, and OMG I love it!
    After debating with myself for about an hour and coming to the realization I was tired of firing I decided to stop leveling Blm (54) and continue smn instead (56) not regreting it so far. The aoe damage is insane can't wait until 60.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 06-27-2015 at 02:17 AM.

  4. #64
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    Aeromat's Avatar
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    Character
    Aeryn Sol
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrumz View Post
    ITT: Don't say DRG is easy to play or they'll come to the thread and belly ache about it. This is of course, after they are dead on the ground. If only DRGs got reraise. :>
    Giving up already? Your point is null after this nonsensical reply. Maybe try playing DRG at level 60 instead of claiming that you know DRG is easysauce. Git gud and git lost scrub. :>
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    Last edited by Aeromat; 06-27-2015 at 03:34 AM. Reason: grammar

  5. #65
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    Sunali's Avatar
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    Rhela Zatopa
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 50
    Can't talk about HW Changes from a personal view, cuz i can't decide what to level...everything seems so boring.

    i played almost every mmo ever made and i don't know why you throw words around like "complex" "hard" in regards to the classes...

    its just BLOATED like hell^^
    Why does a spam rotation need 10+ buttons? and another 10 for cooldowns and ogcd's..

    From this thread i get, everything is super hard and super easy... thanks for the insight!
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  6. #66
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    Swordphobic's Avatar
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    Character
    Auto Vector
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Yes, I guess what I was looking for was a less bloated rotation, timing procs and stuff isn't much of a problem compared to having to use 20+ skills to do a simple bossfight rotation.
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  7. #67
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    jars's Avatar
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    Character
    Juni Esura
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    yeah and 88% of the summoners I see still can't use a proper rotation or snapshots their dots correctly/use bahamut trance correctly.

    So much for the easiest class.
    people couldn't play it at 50 either

    I always thought 50 summoner was a nice medium difficulty but the new skill have me going ehhhhh before leveling it
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  8. #68
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    Eyalle's Avatar
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    Werk Sheet
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallhallix View Post
    It's 56 but I have eyes. SMN's rotation is still straight forward it hasn't changed like blms. Only thing that's different now is stronger AoEs, pet buffs, and a 15 sec damage buff. You're still doing the same thing you've always done with only superficial differences. The buffs to the class just made it even more easier to be honest. I kill trash even faster now with more mana to spare. Used to be you couldn't even spam ruin II without running low.
    Yup because it's not like we have to weave in Dreadwyrm Trance along with Deathflare in our opener or anything, and we can just spam Ruin IIs without going low. /s
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  9. #69
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    waifugenerator's Avatar
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    Character
    Shatotto Totto
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 92
    SMN is easier now. Stop trying to make it sound like more than it is lol. Being good at it though, is very difficult you have to weave almost every skill you have in your opening WHILE figuring out how to do consistent damage the rest of the fight. It's also incredibly bloated if you're micromanaging your pet. That being said, it's really fun to play now with the new skills, and can do massive aoe and single target damage.
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  10. #70
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    I love how you contredict yourself in the same sentence. "SMN is easier" "being good at it is very difficult". Ok.

    Every job is easy if you suck at it.
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