A serious discussion about abridging the story quest 1-50 (discouraging new players)

[Exotik_Legacy]

If I purchased ARR and heavensward to play 1 of the 3 new classes that were advertised, and then found out I have to play a class that I want nothing to do with just to play 1 of those 3 classes, after spending all of that money Im stuck with a month of work which forces me to purchase a timecard as well just to play 1 of the 3 new classes where in my eyes thats when the game would really open up because its the class I wanted to play, I would be very upset and turned off from looking at this game.

[Exotik_Legacy]

treated to a more "coherent, focused" story telling with occasional CS to "give your warrior of light a reason".

But the story isn't more focused if the fluff is just stalling time and is completely irrelevant to both the story AND giving your warrior of light any reason for his reputation, the main story does this, not these fluff quests like ok ill find your airship, in the meantime do these bogus 10-15 quests and the they tell you oh its over here talk to him*gets sent to next hub for them to receive that 1 main quest then give another 15-20 quests and come back for the main quest to continue to the next hub* That is completely and utterly ridiculous if it is happening the entire game…..

[Felis]

If the story was a little more interesting I'd stop and actually read through it. There's a difference between quantity and quality.

Quality is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe because I read it instead of skipping it. Or because I don't read it in english.

But the story isn't more focused if the fluff is just stalling time and is completely irrelevant to both the story AND giving your warrior of light any reason for his reputation, the main story does this, not these fluff quests like ok ill find your airship, in the meantime do these bogus 10-15 quests and the they tell you oh its over here talk to him*gets sent to next hub for them to receive that 1 main quest then give another 15-20 quests and come back for the main quest to continue to the next hub* That is completely and utterly ridiculous if it is happening the entire game…..

Your description confuse me. In what lv 10-15 story quests have you to find an airship?

[Madjames]

The difference is that there is a CHOICE in the matter. Limiting choices is the heart of the issue and is a big turnoff to players such as myself when another play-style is being forced upon us and those players are actively looking for any means necessary to force it on us for no reason as it does not directly affect them at all.

This game is an MMORPG First, Themed Final Fantasy world second. If this was just another FF game then it would have been made as a single player RPG game period. They advertise this game as an MMORPG, its main target IS the MMORPG players not the FF players, you have it backwards.

Also I am NOT done with the MSQ forever if I want to level an alt. I had to downgrade my sub because I am not going through that crapfest again on another toon just so I can have two different races.

[Madjames]

Quality is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe because I read it instead of skipping it. Or because I don't read it in english.

I read the story up to and including level 30, That took a long time, hours and even days. I think that is enough time to see if I like said story book or not. I have never given actual books or movies as much time to see if I liked them before shutting it off or CHOOSING to not purchase said book. The problem is we can not CHOOSE to turn off the MSQ and continue with the rest of the game as the MSQ is a very small and useless aspect of the game anyway. We lost a CHOICE here and that is a problem for new players who want to play the MMORPG side of the game and disregard the FF side of it like I want to do.

You can not say that an MMORPG player does not have a right, nor should they not have a right to CHOOSE what they want to do and how they want to play a game they are paying for. If they like every other aspect of this game EXCEPT the minor small scale MSQ then we should be allowed to skip it and continue to level how WE see fit. If you do not allow us to do so then you are choosing the story huggers over MMORPG players who join this game for the MMORPG aspect no the Final Fantasy story aspect and that is wrong thinking and SE should have just made this game single player.

[Felis]

This game is an MMORPG First, Themed Final Fantasy world second. If this was just another FF game then it would have been made as a single player RPG game period. They advertise this game as an MMORPG, its main target IS the MMORPG players not the FF players, you have it backwards.

90% of the MSQ play like a single player JRPG, with NPCs in your group during instanced fights outside of trials and dungeons.

[Luvbunny]

The difference is that there is a CHOICE in the matter. This game is an MMORPG First, Themed Final Fantasy world second. They advertise this game as an MMORPG, its main target IS the MMORPG players not the FF players, you have it backwards.

Yes this is just a matter of different way of looking at the same thing really. I can feel your pain in leveling alts, truly, I had to to do MSQ three times (well borderline reaching to 4-5, I had to stop myself, lol). I don't see MSQ as a hindrance. I see it as just another way to get XP to level 50, but now, they double the XP on everything from 1-50 content which means faster way to 50.

You do have a CHOICE in skipping the CS now, you did not have it at launch. What I like about FF14 MSQ is that they are putting me on a very straight rail to get to 50 by doing MSQ, just follow the arrow, talk to NPCs, get XP. No more running around trying to figure out what to do next. And yes, 90% of the MSQ plays like offline FF series, which means this is a FINAL FANTASY game FIRST with some online component when you reach the endgame. It is no different from all of those Call of Duty single player game and its multiplayers mode, except with those games you can skip single player and just go straight to multiplayers.

[Madjames]

90% of the MSQ play like a single player JRPG, with NPCs in your group outside of trials and dungeons.

While true the MMORPH side of the coin is much bigger then the MSQ side. You can not advertise this game as a JRPG when it is an MMORPG in the first place, as it would not be correct advertising. This is not a regular Final Fantasy game. This is an MMORPG in a final fantasy themed Virtual World!

[Felis]

While true the MMORPH side of the coin is much bigger then the MSQ side. You can not advertise this game as a JRPG when it is an MMORPG in the first place, as it would not be correct advertising. This is not a regular Final Fantasy game. This is an MMORPG in a final fantasy themed Virtual World!

Or like, as an example, a multiplayer FF VII, where you have to follow the story to unlock the world and can do the dungeon fights together with other players who are at the same part or after in the story as you.

[Madjames]

I skipped a bunch and you know what happened when I hit 50 and was the required level to go into the new expansion? It was gated behind the MSQ that is no longer relevant content and not relevant to my character at all but I had to spend over 20 hours during EA to even get into the expansion which is a big issue and an even bigger issue to new coming players.