Dragoon Punished at lvl 58 - What needs to be done with Wheeling Thrust

[Dervy]

I have absolutely no problems with Wheeling Thrust and Fang & Claw. I don't see what the fuss is. Do I miss positionals? Yeah, sometimes I do when the boss is spin happy. But you have more than enough time to think where you need to position yourself next. I can even position myself and accurately hit both Wheeling Thrust and Fang & Claw on mobs with nano-meeter hitboxes. If you know how AOEs work, you can run into AOE's, hit positionals and run out again, without getting hit, maxing out your positionals. Learn how the animations work and learn to plan two steps ahead. Dragoon isn't an easy job to play no-more.

It's all practice.

Do I feel like it's a wasted a ability and they could of some something more imaginative with it? Yes. Is it punishment? Absolutely not. Practice on a dummy until you've perfected it.

[SpecialKK]

Do I feel like it's a wasted a ability and they could of some something more imaginative with it? Yes. Is it punishment? Absolutely not. Practice on a dummy until you've perfected it.

I don't know that I would call it "punishment". It is, however, completely pointless. Other than to make the job more difficult for the player, that is.

Not only does it add a positional that gives a hefty penalty if missed, but it takes away one button mapping (especially for the already limited gamepad control scheme) while adding nothing that the other skill doesn't already provide.

Put it this way, if DRGs are told that we get a pretty much worthless skill (such as Feint) at lvl 58 as opposed to a duplicate of what we get at 56 that further complicates our job...I would bet most would take the crappy skill and never look back.

[warren-ragnarok]

It's all practice.

i can see all the loldrg's saying "sh**, now i have to get good"

all the good drgs must be saying to them "get good or go brd"

[Havenchild]

After having made it to 56 on DRG, I can see both the skill ceiling increase and understand it doesn't need to be easy but I disagree with the un-needed conplexity. All the RNG and level 58 skill serves is to potentially lower your DPS from a missed positional. That in itself seems pretty damn pointless outside distinguishing those from the rest who can perfectly execute it.

I think the more correct way they could have added complexity to it but reduce the RNG was simply to give Full Thrust a flank positional which then combos into Wheeling Thrust. Chaos Thrust would then combo into Fang and Claw thus you would have a rear and flank setting on each combo string that would force movement as well. Complexity without RNG.