SE,we Mac users do not deserve this third class treatment!

[Brianmj]

I want to know why Yoshida put his stamp of approval on this. He had to have seen the same thing we're seeing. There's only an handful of people out there claiming to have "decent experience" on the Mac. I want Square to expend the time and energy on a native client.

I take your lol and raise you a...

The Mac isn't a console.

[Geesus]

I want Square to expend the time and energy on a native client.

That's like complaining to Sony that they need to make a console version of a game for an XBONE or 360 or PC that works just as well on the PS.

It's created by a third party as was mentioned previously in another post. If it worked on what they used to test the game on at SE HQ then, it works for them it should work for others. However, just like some Windows owners have issues while the majority of the PC players are windows players, there are still problems. You don't see those people on the forums complaining. They, may complain but they aren't blaming SE. They have machine issues or network issue or outdated machines *cough cough* like the OP.

Point is, the OP's machine has outdated hardware. He's using an Intel GPU (THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE) and is upset the game runs like crap. Well, upgrade. If it was a PC, most of us probably would have asked for more details and given him or her a reasonably priced GPU they could swap out and use to play the game well until they could afford a better Windows machine but, being the GPU is part of the MOBO and the CPU itself, they're S.O.L. And this is another reason why, Laptops, Mac or PC suck for gaming.

[AmaiHanakaze]

Point is, the OP's machine has outdated hardware. He's using an Intel GPU (THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE) and is upset the game runs like crap. Well, upgrade. If it was a PC, most of us probably would have asked for more details and given him or her a reasonably priced GPU they could swap out and use to play the game well until they could afford a better Windows machine but, being the GPU is part of the MOBO and the CPU itself, they're S.O.L. And this is another reason why, Laptops, Mac or PC suck for gaming.

The OP stated in a later reply that he's using the dGPU GeForce 650M model, which is the same GPU my MBP has. Thus my response earlier that a majority of us Mac users in this thread are not idiots and have posted specs using a dGPU model. I'd be as quick to laugh off an Intel iGPU user as anyone else.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

And this is another reason why, Laptops, Mac or PC suck for gaming.

That's only if you're the kind of person who just buys whatever's on the store shelf and that's it. Store bought, or any cheaply made computers in general, make it difficult or outright impossible to upgrade. Someone who wants to seriously game on a PC would do some research beforehand. I built my PC recently and it made playing this game so much sweeter compared to the old 2011 dinosaur PC I was using that was pre built. PC for games can be fantastic, but you have to put in a bit of effort to get the results you want from your games. Laptops are a whole other story I won't get into.

[SulwynCaliope]

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The problem is that mac users paid the EXACT same amount of money as PC/ PS4 users for a crap product. If SE had given away mac clients for free, then they wouldn't be upset right now. Is it in, any way, shape or form, acceptable that they should be asked to pay TWICE just to get a product that functions at a reasonable standard? SE should issue all mac users an apology and a refund immediately because the client is almost unplayable as it is right now. They paid $60 for the same bundle that pc and ps4 users did, why should their money not take them as far as platforms?

[Delily]

The problem is that mac users paid the EXACT same amount of money as PC/ PS4 users for a crap product. If SE had given away mac clients for free, then they wouldn't be upset right now. Is it in, any way, shape or form, acceptable that they should be asked to pay TWICE just to get a product that functions at a reasonable standard? SE should issue all mac users an apology and a refund immediately because the client is almost unplayable as it is right now. They paid $60 for the same bundle that pc and ps4 users did, why should their money not take them as far as platforms?

Honestly, I don't want a refund. I want them to acknowledge the issue to start with.

[Strifex]

Just stopping in here to show my support for the poor mac users out there. As someone who plays a lot of MMOs and has played on gaming pcs and MacBook pros, a native client makes a world of difference (example: WoW Mac Client) and FFXIV players deserve the kind of experience a native client provides. Good luck to all the Mac players out there, I hope SE optimizes the wrapper client or provides you with a native one!

[LeonWhitehart]

Just stopping in here to show my support for the poor mac users out there. As someone who plays a lot of MMOs and has played on gaming pcs and MacBook pros, a native client makes a world of difference (example: WoW Mac Client) and FFXIV players deserve the kind of experience a native client provides. Good luck to all the Mac players out there, I hope SE optimizes the wrapper client or provides you with a native one!

Really appreciate your support. But so far we have heard nothing from anyone from SE. And the good thing is I am getting used to the slide-show gameplay on Mac client. hehe

[Delily]

That's likecomplaining to Sony that they need to make a console version of a game for an XBONE or 360 or PC that works just as well on the PS.

It's created by a third party as was mentioned previously in another post. If it worked on what they used to test the game on at SE HQ then, it works for them it should work for others. However, just like some Windows owners have issues while the majority of the PC players are windows players, there are still problems. You don't see those people on the forums complaining. They, may complain but they aren't blaming SE. They have machine issues or network issue or outdated machines *cough cough* like the OP.

Point is, the OP's machine has outdated hardware. He's using an Intel GPU (THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE) and is upset the game runs like crap. Well, upgrade. If it was a PC, most of us probably would have asked for more details and given him or her a reasonably priced GPU they could swap out and use to play the game well until they could afford a better Windows machine but, being the GPU is part of the MOBO and the CPU itself, they're S.O.L. And this is another reason why, Laptops, Mac or PC suck for gaming.

It's more widespread then the OP.
According to this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rs#post3062162,
someone ran the client on the this: http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/...A&step=config# with the highest GPU available.
And got similar performance.