Bard - they broke my job

[Lyaha]

Can people just try and adapt to the playstyle before claiming it's broken? It's an xpac; the playstyles are supposed to change. If they didn't then what's the point?

If you try it out for a while and still hate it then I'll be more understanding. But the amount of "So I've been 60 for 5 minutes and the class is unplayable and destroyed because I can't maintain 100% dps while jumping in figure8's like a crackhead anymore" is getting out of hand.

E: not trying to be facetious. I don't play brd often, so I'll cede to brd majority opinion if this is how it continues to play out. But please let's have it be an informed opinion instead of a kneejerk one.

How often must it be said, don't completely change a class's play style, we chose our class for mobility, if we wanted to cast, we'd play a black mage.

This ability shouldn't exist in it's current form.

[Crazypluto]

How often must it be said, don't completely change a class's play style, we chose our class for mobility, if we wanted to cast, we'd play a black mage.

This ability shouldn't exist in it's current form.

That's right I picked bard because of it's play style, now it's the Bow wizard and I hate it.

[m3eansean]

How often must it be said, don't completely change a class's play style, we chose our class for mobility, if we wanted to cast, we'd play a black mage.

This ability shouldn't exist in it's current form.

But all endgame bards I ever saw, stood still most of the time anyway. The needless, superfluous movements some bards make, simply don't need to happen. You don't have to be able to run around at all times, the game doesn't require it and SE knows this. Furthermore, most bards have complained about a loss of dps over other jobs for some time, SE gave them the option to have similiar dps to other jobs and the result is more complaints it would appear.

It will be interesting if SE does anything with WM.

[Lyaha]

But all endgame bards I ever saw, stood still most of the time anyway. The needless, superfluous movements some bards make, simply don't need to happen. You don't have to be able to run around at all times, the game doesn't require it and SE knows this. Furthermore, most bards have complained about a loss of dps over other jobs for some time, SE gave them the option to have similiar dps to other jobs and the result is more complaints it would appear.

It will be interesting if SE does anything with WM.

Then you clearly didn't pay attention.

And what's this about an option? Unless I've gone back to WoW where you have talent choices that give the option you speak of simply isn't there, WM blocks you from using most of the new abilities, the class wasn't designed with cast times in mind and they made no effort into changing that as well, they just added a skill that Machinist just happened to get.

[Aistaraina]

Furthermore, most bards have complained about a loss of dps over other jobs for some time, SE gave them the option to have similiar dps to other jobs and the result is more complaints it would appear.

But they didn't give us the option to have similar DPS. They gave us an ability that is EXTREMELY situational (opener and when HE+B4B+Barrage are up), and if kept up is an overall DPS loss.

[SonTensei]

Looks like we need to stack up Skill speed for WM,, but wait isnt cast time affected by SPELL SPEED????

[awesomeuno]

Looks like we need to stack up Skill speed for WM,, but wait isnt cast time affected by SPELL SPEED????

Cast time of physical attacks is governed by skill speed.

[FateAudax]

But all endgame bards I ever saw, stood still most of the time anyway. The needless, superfluous movements some bards make, simply don't need to happen. You don't have to be able to run around at all times, the game doesn't require it and SE knows this. Furthermore, most bards have complained about a loss of dps over other jobs for some time, SE gave them the option to have similiar dps to other jobs and the result is more complaints it would appear.

It will be interesting if SE does anything with WM.

I'll have to stop you right there. So you claimed that you witnessed ALL endgame bards in action? and all they did was stood there like a dummy?
Do you by chance main a bard enough to call our movement superfluous?

I find it amusing in every thread, there are always these players who doesn't main a bard coming in and tell us "your class is alright, you just do not know how to play it, lol lel rofl". No offence but I really find it amusing because it's like a boy telling a girl "hey, I know how it feels to have pms but deal with it".

[Malevicton]

I'll have to stop you right there. So you claimed that you witnessed ALL endgame bards in action? and all they did was stood there like a dummy?
Do you by chance main a bard enough to call our movement superfluous?

I find it amusing in every thread, there are always these players who doesn't main a bard coming in and tell us "your class is alright, you just do not know how to play it, lol lel rofl". No offence but I really find it amusing because it's like a boy telling a girl "hey, I know how it feels to have pms but deal with it".

Well he said "all endgame bards I ever saw" actually... :/ So no he never claimed that lol

[Yoruichi4478]

I'll have to stop you right there. So you claimed that you witnessed ALL endgame bards in action? and all they did was stood there like a dummy?
Do you by chance main a bard enough to call our movement superfluous?

I find it amusing in every thread, there are always these players who doesn't main a bard coming in and tell us "your class is alright, you just do not know how to play it, lol lel rofl". No offence but I really find it amusing because it's like a boy telling a girl "hey, I know how it feels to have pms but deal with it".

I guess according to this guy we all eat the damage we run to avoid while dpsing on the move. Nooo we just stand there and take it (sarcasm).