Is it me, or is DRK really isn't that super great, nor super bad.

[Tila]

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I believe the discussion is being done under the assumption that both drk and warrior are dropping their tank stance to maintain their dps for MTing.

Ironically, the DRK needs to do this much more than the warrior to maintain a high dps since the blood weapon is so central to not being mana starved. That and its easier for warrior to switch around stances than drk since the DRK needs a GCD and a chunk of mana to do so

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

the new warrior skill raw intuition gives abandon/wrath, and therefore, more damage when MT.

I never parced it but I'm pretty sure using Raw Intuition (or vengence) to solely to generate an extra stack of abandon/wrath) doesn't increase our dps by that much. All it amounts to is 1 less GCD before an Inner Beast (or +2% more crit/parry).

[Zolentus]

My DRK is at level 55, and I can tell you that while it's immediate damage doesn't shine, the burst capability due to the sheer number of instant/30 sec cooldown powers at its disposal jumps its DPS potential when weaved into the GCD combos. It also has 2 relatively powerful DoTs. Furthermore, focusing on the Souleater combo and using Dark Arts to empower it boosts your output considerably since it both recharges your MP and recovers health. I use the enmity combo only when establishing aggro at the start of long boss fights.

That said, I don't think its DPS is a major concern. I'm more worried about its survivability during end-game raids.

[Kaedan]

That said, I don't think its DPS is a major concern. I'm more worried about its survivability during end-game raids.

I don't think we really need to be concerned about that. We lack the shield of the PLD or the HP/IB of the WAR, but we gain a fairly potent Magic Damage cooldown and have some self-healing options.

[Violette]

I don't think trading in innate tankiness for...situational cooldown, especially when paladins and warriors have enough cooldowns to deal with it regardless.

And "some self-healing options" isn't really an argument when paladins got clemency and their improved conva, and warriors have ib/storms/improved bloodbath/new heal/thrill of battle/innate healing bonus :/

[Pinkie_Pie]

I decided to have a speed run in stone vigil, My DRK took longer to clear compare to my warrior, it was like "DAY" and "Night"

Why do I feel my attacks are slower then that of a warrior, maybe its just the animation doing that to me. With a warrior, I feel like I'm hitting them HARD and when I hit 52 with my warrior, its a WHOLE NEW BALL GAME BABY.

[Jamez82]

I'm at 57 on my DRK and tanked the new dungeons up to Aery (which I have done several times today) and have had no problems at all not only holding hate but doing respectable dps and the healers seem to have no issue at all. I even asked a couple times how healing DRK is and most say it's not a lot different than healing a paladin. Others have said I'm doing great and a lot of the DRK they have got are awful.

Part of me feels like it's those who jumped on the DRK train because they wanna be Batman or something. Not to say the DRK is perfectly fine, I worry about their raiding capability due to a lack of a lot of cooldowns (PLD) or their always on hand one (WAR).

[Zaraaraz]

I just hit level 51 myself, and with full STR stat distribution it feels like we hit pretty dam hard (are you guys all vit or something??).

This...I'm new to tanking in general, and I think I need to reset my stats

[Violette]

I'm at 57 on my DRK and tanked the new dungeons up to Aery (which I have done several times today) and have had no problems at all not only holding hate but doing respectable dps and the healers seem to have no issue at all. I even asked a couple times how healing DRK is and most say it's not a lot different than healing a paladin. Others have said I'm doing great and a lot of the DRK they have got are awful.

Part of me feels like it's those who jumped on the DRK train because they wanna be Batman or something. Not to say the DRK is perfectly fine, I worry about their raiding capability due to a lack of a lot of cooldowns (PLD) or their always on hand one (WAR).

For healing, it's definitely not much different from healing a paladin.... but the paladin is still tougher in the end (shield) and has no encouragement to drop their tanking stance (blood weapon).
But the aery is pretty cruisy, especially with abyssal drain + DA + blood price.

[Geaux]

I'm half way through 58 and I've enjoyed Dark Knight a bunch......

Only thing that I feel it needs a change with , which has already been noted , is reprisal being a proc w/o a cooldown.

I wouldn't mind SS having a shorter cooldown as well though if it could happen......