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  1. #21
    Player
    Mokara's Avatar
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    Character
    Mokara Vexx
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I was obviously only taking a plain fight into consideration where Dark Dance and Dark Mind uptime isn't factored in (or Unleash, Dark Passenger, etc.) and going for max dps.

    The job is immensely complex I figured and if anyone can pull of a flawless DRK at 60 then you have my admiration, but then you also probably have a Naga or you don't mind using a gazillion shift-modifiers spending the majority of encounters with your eyes on the hotbar/mp bar instead of on the fight, where it matters.
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  2. #22
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    Timat's Avatar
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    Character
    Kane Shadowbane
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    I believe Yoshi or someone said that the idea and intent is to keep Darkside up as much as possible.
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  3. #23
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    Xyphon's Avatar
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    Character
    Shira Tempest
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    Ridill
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Its very easy to keep mp flowing, apparently people don't realize how well dots work with this. Blood weapon + scourge/fracture works wonders, especially if there's more than 1 mob. Top it off with blood price and siphon and you almost never run out of mp.

    I just hit level 51 myself, and with full STR stat distribution it feels like we hit pretty dam hard (are you guys all vit or something??). Especially when you do back to back dark arts+soul eater. Can't wait to get carve and split as an OGCD. I can also see blood weapon+salted earth working pretty well.

    Also I don't know if you guys noticed but siphons strikes scales as you lvl up higher. Now I'm getting about 241+ mp per use. Where as in my 40's I got about 140.
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    Last edited by Xyphon; 06-21-2015 at 04:09 AM.

  4. #24
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    Timat's Avatar
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    Character
    Kane Shadowbane
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyphon View Post
    I can also see blood weapon+salted earth working pretty well.

    Blood Weapon converts PHYSICAL damage into mp
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  5. #25
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    Aurelinaus's Avatar
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    Character
    Zata'ra Dakwhil
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    It's mostly a PLD with some WAR bits thrown in

    Unleash = Flash
    Power Slash Combo = Rage of Halone Combo
    Shadowskin = Rampart
    Reprisal = Spirits Within
    Grit = Shield Oath
    Dark Dance = Bulwark
    Shadow Wall = Sentinel
    Living Dead = Hallowed Ground
    Salted Earth = Circle of Scorn
    Delirium Combo = Rage of Halone

    Scourge = Fracture
    Low Blow = Brutal Swing
    Carve and Spit = Fell Cleave
    Abyssal Drain = Steel Cyclone
    Dark Mind = Foresight

    List is just what is obvious. There's a very strong possibility that when they were designing the job that it was originally had GLA as it's base class.
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  6. #26
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    Timat's Avatar
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    Character
    Kane Shadowbane
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Come to think of it I dont even think Blood Weapon works with DoTS....just tried doting some mobs up and then stopping but I did not see any MP regen list. It was only on the initial strikes for my skills did I see any MP gain.
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  7. #27
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    Aurelinaus's Avatar
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    Character
    Zata'ra Dakwhil
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Timat View Post
    Come to think of it I dont even think Blood Weapon works with DoTS....just tried doting some mobs up and then stopping but I did not see any MP regen list. It was only on the initial strikes for my skills did I see any MP gain.
    Was that with or without Darkside active? This was one of the things I've been meaning to test but haven't gotten around to doing so.
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  8. #28
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    Gorlioliolio's Avatar
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    Character
    Shaggy Grant
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Abyssal drain is not= steel cyclone, I just got plunge and looked at the tooltip for it, 15y range, 120 potency aoe enmity attack with 100% drain if dark arts is up, hello new speed run champion right here.
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  9. #29
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    Nilheim's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Nil Griffin
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I don't know if it's because I don't have all the abilities yet (I'm 42) but I keep Darkside on 100% of the time and it's no problem. Unleash (I think? the Flash equivalent) generates an insane amount of hate for trash pulls and with Blood Price I have more MP than I know what to do with. Unleash is so good that I never have to really use the enmity combo and I can just use Siphon as well if I need a bit more mp. Granted that's on trash but on bosses I don't use MP that much since I don't have to use Unleash at all (except on adds) and if needed I can just swap out of Grit for a few seconds and fill my mp with Blood Weapon.

    As I said, only 42 right now, but I'm impressed with how easily you can generate enmity. Damage isn't that great yet, and defense didn't strike me as poor. I look forward to being higher level to see how it turns out but so far managing MP is far easier than I thought it would be.
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  10. #30
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    Character
    Stygia Ashenscale
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    49 Dark Knight here. I don't know what Problems your talking about o_O If you off tank=blood weapon+ dots + slashes= mana without end. if you mt= blood price and some siphon strike and you have no mana problems oO dont forget that you are NOT DEATH-Knights but DARK-Knights. It's not your job to survive on selfheal alone.

    Generally im around 900-1k mana and i think thats a good pool for "oh shit" situations.
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