Summoner Changes Compiled: Is there more?

[SovereignAegis]

We have no new egi skins/glamors?

[Fatshine]

We have no new egi skins/glamors?

Not at the moment, but in a future update egi glamour will be implemented. The new ones will have the same attacks/potencies, just have different animations to feel unique.

[Tharian]

am I reading this correctly that on my Summoner I only need to gear for 515 Accuracy for Turn 13, instead of the 535 that I used to need to gear for thanks to the pet now using rear accuracy instead of flank?

[GideonHighmourn]

I just wanna chime in here, since I recently hit 60 on ACN. Although I primary SCH, I always kept SMN geared incase.

SMN's skills look awesome, and their AoE potency is equally as awesome; however, they still lack in single target damage. 3.0 still hasn't given SMN a spamable attack besides Ruin II, and Ruin III only has a 120 potency while Broil (SCH) is a spamable 170 potency attack. Broil has a normal MP cost attached to it, and Ruin III should only be cast while in Dreadwyrm Trance due to the insane MP cost.

Deathflare is pretty good, but it's a 400 potency attack that can be used once every 45 seconds or so. A flashy way to finish Dreadwyrm attack, but by the time you've set-up three stacks of Aether for this, most of the mobs will have died already. It's super flashy, but all the set-up you have to do will likely result in you never actually using it, or only using it on the last remaining enemy. In boss fights, you might use it quite a few times.

New Tri-Disaster is better, but it's still meh. Since we have no spammable single-target attack besides Ruin II, it doesn't really help improve DPS that dramatically; it's more for convenience, to me.

Enkindle CD reduction is nice, but it still feels a little lack luster on the DPS it contributes, especially since it's still a rather long CD. You might use it twice in some of the longer boss fights now; however, it's primarily a way to deal more DPS during trash pulls than anything.

I feel like my SCH puts out slightly lower numbers in AoE pulls, but quite similar numbers in boss pulls. SMN is in a better place than in 2.0, but that's primarily due to cap of Bane being removed. It still needs a better spam skill for ST damage, and the potency #s for Ruin III and Deathflare need to be adjusted, still, IMO.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Interesting statement Gideon. You said you hit 60 on ACN. Does that mean that SMN and SCH get leveled together like they used to in ARR days? Or, do you need to level them separately?

Also (since I have only been leveling AST so far), did they finally make the change to SMN/SCH attribute stats and separate them? Or, is it still one combined pool?

[Tharian]

Interesting statement Gideon. You said you hit 60 on ACN. Does that mean that SMN and SCH get leveled together like they used to in ARR days? Or, do you need to level them separately?

Why would they have changed that feature?

[GideonHighmourn]

Interesting statement Gideon. You said you hit 60 on ACN. Does that mean that SMN and SCH get leveled together like they used to in ARR days? Or, do you need to level them separately?

They both still level based on ACN, so yes they level together like before.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Why would they have changed that feature?

I have no idea, that's why I'm asking.

[Tharian]

I have no idea, that's why I'm asking.

The thing is, Arcanist is the base class of both Scholar and Summoner. The only way for them to have made it so that Scholar and Summoner DIDN'T level together like that would be if they introduced an alternative base class for one or the other of the two advanced jobs that are derived from Arcanist, as it is Arcanist that levels up, not the Scholar and Summoner. The Scholar and Summoner's level just has the benefit of being EQUAL to that of the Arcanists level.

And I noticed that no one has answered my question regarding pet accuracy XD

[GideonHighmourn]

The thing is, Arcanist is the base class of both Scholar and Summoner. The only way for them to have made it so that Scholar and Summoner DIDN'T level together like that would be if they introduced an alternative base class for one or the other of the two advanced jobs that are derived from Arcanist, as it is Arcanist that levels up, not the Scholar and Summoner. The Scholar and Summoner's level just has the benefit of being EQUAL to that of the Arcanists level.

And I noticed that no one has answered my question regarding pet accuracy XD

I wish I could answer your question, but I don't main SMN; I heal T13 as SCH, so I can't really help verify what you're asking.