i170 healing gear has 0 accuracy on it.

[Aeyis]

How is overhealing rewarded in this game?

How is overheal even mentioned? Ever heard of the 5 second rule? Altho it does not apply in FFXIV it does hint at what im trying to point out:
When you DPS you:

-burn mana you might need later on
-get stuck in a global cooldown, when you might need to react fast to damage taken by the party.
-become less focus on your parties healthbars, and as a result respond slower to incoming damage (or debuffs)

If none of the above applies, then as I mentioned the discussion is pointless: the content your doing is trivial when it comes to healing, and as such it does not matter much what you do in addition to healing. (or instead of healing)

Yes dps has value, as it allows your party to do the encounter faster. But if you can get away with dpsing as a healer then that simply means the healing requirements arent very high.


Personally I'd rather healing itself being more challenging, rather then ''healing + dps''. I'm a healer after all, its in the job description. Not a ''healer+dps''

[Wizarus]

SNIP

That's not really answeing my question, when all 3 of these things are irrelevant when we're talking about end-game healers. Currently, there is no content where an end-game healer doesn't have at least some opportunity to provide DPS, if not good DPS.

[nekuxdesu]

memes

You can only do so much with healing. You cap everyone off and give the tank a shield, then what? Being afk is boring as hell. DPS doesnt just "allow your party to do the encounter faster", it allows you to actually beat the encounter. If you are hitting a hard dps wall due to gear, will you dps or will you wallow in your own filth and hold your team back? Now we could argue about how easy just healing is but thats not what we're here about, this is a dps healer thread

Also in regards to your points in your post

Have you healed in this game before? All damage coming out is completely expected and come on you're a healer you have no complicated "rotation", so if you're not able to keep an eye on health bars while pressing dots, we have big issues.
Oh and even for you bads theres instant cast heals; lustrate, indom, bene, bene2, swiftcast+ heal, etc.

basically git gud lol

[TheMax1087]

The reason is simple: because doing more as a healer means healing better. Not dpsing better. If your healing doesnt suffer at all from any dps you might do, then the discussion is pointless for a different reason: the content is too trivial (when it comes to healing).

There's no such thing as healing better, it's either you're healing enough, healing too much, or healing too little. There's no other variance with healing that can be possible.

[Nadirah]

Maybe we need less predictable damage and more enrage timers via "if you don't kill this thing fast enough the AOE damage will wipe you".

More damage going out = more healing needed = less time for the healers to be doing damage. This is the only game I've ever played(and I've played most of them) in which the healers are expected to DPS because there's downtime.

Get rid of that downtime and this problem goes away.

[Gallus]

the content your doing is trivial when it comes to healing, and as such it does not matter much what you do in addition to healing. (or instead of healing)

I guess first world T13 clears in i110 were trivial content too. The healers could push DPS there because healing T13 in i110 stuff was just too easy.

[Gallus]

What people do not seem to understand is how the nature of healing works in this game. There's no such thing as "if you can DPS as a healer it means you are"

1 - overgeared and thus doing trivial content.
2 - putting your party members to risk.
3 - ????

You never absolutely never are in a constant healing pressure in this game (T1 being the only exception, I remember it was the ONLY turn where I was never able to DPS as a healer, Caduceus just did too much damage constantly). It's all about being there when the big damage comes. Tank busters, aoes, random mechanics. There are many times where your entire party is topped and between attack 1 and attack 2 there is a downtime of 10 seconds where the boss is standing there like a dumbo just throwing autattacks which are 100% offhealed by the fairy and a WHM regen. You can either twiddle your thumbs there or DPS. That's how it basically works. A confident healer will exactly know every safe downtime where that happens.

[Nadirah]

Then make more fights like T1.

You're complaining about gear to dps with and saying you like dps because healing isn't challenging enough(collective "you" here, not anyone particular), yet no one asks for healing to actually be made challenging.

Tank busters? Assign someone to keep track and call for CDs. Put someone primarily on tank dutu and someone on raid duty.

Plenty of ways to keep healers busy outside predictable damage and whining "but if we can't dps we're bored".

[Zfz]

Not having Accuracy doesn't stop you from doing dps. You may see a much lower dps, but you can still do it during your downtime. And you will still help your party progress.

Your dps just won't be so game-changing that all the content becomes one grade easier.

Healers can still do dps. The lack of Accuracy on healing gear is an adjustment which mostly affect your raid dps. It means against raid targets, your influence on raid total dps is curtailed to conform to the original design intent.

If you want to dps in raids, just do it. Yes your parse won't be so high, but that is how it should have been in the first place. Not having accuracy doesn't mean now raid content is boring facerolls. You can do exactly the same things as you did before, nothing needs to change. You can still be as busy as you want.

In fact, this now opens up an even more advanced level of play for healers who can adjust their gear to have Accuracy yet still heal perfectly fine, while at the same time dealing dps that other healers can't possible achieve. Kind of like how tanks have been judged for a long time. Survivability and dps. Now healers get to play that game, too.