Your thoughts on Astrolgian so far?

[DayumQuitPlayin]

When I heal on AST, it feels like I'm healing as WHM with Cleric Stance on. I like the job, but the healing sucks. Gotta keep spamming heals. It's a fun job.. but WHM is definitely the best healing job. I think SE should buff AST.

[spelley]

Looks like Piety might be one of their prime stats for itemization in that case.

[Mhikail]

SCH: Barrier.
WHM: Burst.
AST: Support.

EDIT: Nevermind this, I'm seeing some concerns now.

[RazeLandale]

Can anyone share how are they using Royal Road? Im still not sure if im using it in the right way. Do u use it only with certain cards? or always you can? thx

Reroll cards you don't want, or during downtime when you aren't fighting/a fights about to end so that you have a fresh rr card at the start of the next fight. Don't reroll just for the sake of rerolling. I guess my own thoughts would be....

Bole: Reroll if the tanks not really taking any damage.

Ewer: Cast on self on bosses, reroll on trash. UNLESS there's a black mage. That's more damage for him.(Do drks want this? Not up on their mechanics)

Spear: If you roll at the start of a fight it's great for any tank or dps with lots of cds like bard or machinist. Because they're going to open with cooldowns pretty reliably. Mid fight I don't know what's been used so I reroll.

Spire: Getting rerolled a lot(A common trend at low levels it seems...), but will be great at higher levels. Once people start aoeing it'll be amazing. Probably also a safe bet with any warrior. I hear they like their tp.

Arrow/Balance: Never reroll if the fights going to last the full 15 seconds.

If I get a less than ideal card while I already have the rr buff I've decided I should just use it. Unless it's ewer. Because this afternoon I drew bole, rerolled bole again. Then rerolled and got bole AGAIN. Ok game, I get the message, I'm fishing too hard for arrow/balance, I'll cast bole.

Then the game gave me bole for my next two draws after that, just to make sure I learned my lesson.

[Superlol]

What do you think about Diurnal Sect? Nocturnal Sect seems better even for soloing i think.. I've never seen the regen from the Diurnal..

[Vlady]

Astrologian should not have the potency of the spells they cast boosted. They unfortunately made an astrologian be sort of a jack of trades in the healing biz and already outshine white mages as it is. If you give them same potency healing as a white mage then just delete the white mage.

[VanilleFang]

Astrologian should not have the potency of the spells they cast boosted. They unfortunately made an astrologian be sort of a jack of trades in the healing biz and already outshine white mages as it is. If you give them same potency healing as a white mage then just delete the white mage.

Go. Away.


Anyway I love AST so far. I like the healing spells they have and stuff and junk. The only thing I don't love is Stella. I like the animation I just haven't found much use out of it besides soloing. Which I guess is the point of it but it just seems... Blah. Only level 43 though.

What do you think about Diurnal Sect? Nocturnal Sect seems better even for soloing i think.. I've never seen the regen from the Diurnal..

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How can you miss it? Aspected Benefic and Aspected Helios apply them, and they are impossible to miss.

[Vlady]

Go. Away.


Anyway I love AST so far. I like the healing spells they have and stuff and junk. The only thing I don't love is Stella. I like the animation I just haven't found much use out of it besides soloing. Which I guess is the point of it but it just seems... Blah. Only level 43 though.


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How can you miss it? Aspected Benefic and Aspected Helios apply them, and they are impossible to miss.

But yet if you have your way you would have astrologian outheal white mages and outperform scholars in utility and damage. Sorry but you cannot have your cake and eat it to. Why should astrologian be better then the other two healers at everything?

[LycorisSelunis]

Absolutely had to stop at 49 tonight unfortunately :/ got things to do. That being said.... I love this class. I feel like it was made for me. but it is certainly not without trouble,,,,,

If the higher level pre-50 dungeons are any indication then AST will have huge issues later on and in a raid setting. They leak MP like a sieve trying to keep anyone up for extended periods of time (this isn't easily apparent at lower level dungeons unless things go horribly wrong, but noticeable in DD and AV) Their mp recovery is as whm's shroud- doesn't increase efficiency with mp pool like aetherflow does. It has a quelling strikes ability attached to it as well, instead of the half-current-enmity on shroud. When I have to pop this and spam heals the quelling is sometimes not enough to keep agro off of me at all.

'But you have ewer to help with mp!' I hear you cry. Well that card is random, and you can't guarantee it. I try to spread an ewer whenever I can to have it for nasty trash/bosses but sometimes I won't get one in all the trash before a boss. More upsetting is when you die your spreaded card is wiped, if you wipe on a boss you can't have any spread card at the start of a retry since you have to be in combat to cast it. I love the buffs AST has, the cards and all the spells that interact with them are great. But if ewer is being used as a reason why their small heals cost the same truckload of mp for less efficiency then we have a problem- this amount of rng isn't good to base something as essential as your own mp sustainability. (someone mentioned they weren't sure if this was good for drk? its amazing for drk btw)

I don't necessarily mind the heals being less potent per se. It's the cost that upsets me. The class is designed around pumping out a large number of weak spells- lightpseed, benefic2 proc, and 2 instant heals. It simply is unsustainable. Would you pay a dollar for a quarter pound burger when the guy next door offers a third pound burger for a dollar too? I wouldn't, but I might pay 85 cents.The mp costs need to be looked at. I will make a better analysis when I hit 50 and can do some easier comparisons to my other 50 healers in the same gear. And compare nocturnal sect.

The skillcap on AST is very high. Keeping people up with your weak heals, managing the four spells with your cards efficiently, and tossing out dps when you can is a great deal to balance and manage. I certainly wouldn't recommend it to someone who hadn't played a healer before, it would be overwhelming especially if they didn't have any experience with mp management from whm. I do, and it's still tough (in a way that I like though I find it engaging and busy). I hope to reserve final judgement till I can test out some lvl 50 8-man stuff to compare with what I know of whm and sch but this was my impression sofar.

[Yumi_umi]

Mantra + war hp + coven = op noct shield thts insta cast.
Heals like a cure 1
Cheaper than benefic 2
342 mp vs 304 mp
Shield = to hp restored.
Remember that