Raid runs and gear drops

[Velhart]

Maybe some of you needs a new LS or as Dr. Mog says make your own group...

My LS does it with melee classes as well.. so i dont get why everyone is crying.. we do it.. why cant you?

Not saying it can't be done, the issue people are having is that people don't want to do it that way, they rather just go easy mode and bring archers and mages. That is the complaint.

[Thanos]

Not saying it can't be done, the issue people are having is that people don't want to do it that way, they rather just go easy mode and bring archers and mages. That is the complaint.

So I still fail to see how this is SE's problem that people decide to do things a certain way.. SE shouldnt need to change anything.

Oh wait let me guess.. "IF SE BALANCED THE CLASSES... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH THEN PEOPLE WILL WANT TO TAKE MELEES"

[Thanos]

I like you.

Oh ya? what do u like about me? =)

[DoctorMog]

This is borderline retarded.

Go level archer or mage so that you can do it on easy mode.

In all the time people spend complaining on the forums, they could have had archer at 50 and done the raid on easymode.

I'll say it again though;

Alternatively, make a group yourself of w/e you want and do the speed run without archer/mage.

It can be done.


So, TL : DR Play better, or do the work to get the classes ranked up for the easiest method.


Nerfing the FIRST difficult thing in FFXIV is a stupid thing to ask for.

[DoctorMog]

Oh ya? what do u like about me? =)

Your common sense rivals that of legends.

I like that about you.

[Irana]

All you need to do a speed run with 25+ minutes left is to have everyone in the party have quickstride and ignore all other chests and just RUN towards boss ogre and batraal. It isnt so hard to do.

[Velhart]

So I still fail to see how this is SE's problem that people decide to do things a certain way.. SE shouldnt need to change anything.

Oh wait let me guess.. "IF SE BALANCED THE CLASSES... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH THEN PEOPLE WILL WANT TO TAKE MELEES"

If you enjoy a system where only cookie cutter parties are allowed, then I don't see any problem either. I couldn't help but notice both people arguing with me are an archer and a mage.

While yes, it is mostly up to us how we decide to approach it, it is still SE's part to make sure that diversity in a group is the best way to go, how we want to work with that is our decision. More like, give us an incentive to not only want Archers and mages.

[DoctorMog]

If you enjoy a system where only cookie cutter parties are allowed, then I don't see any problem either. I couldn't help but notice both people arguing with me are an archer and a mage.

While yes, it is mostly up to us how we decide to approach it, it is still SE's part to make sure that diversity in a group is the best way to go, how we want to work with that is our decision. More like, give us an incentive to not only want Archers and mages.

Go. Level. Archer. Or. CON. or THM.
All you need is ONE out of the three to get in a "cookie cutter run" and do it.

Otherwise, man up and do it with mele.

[Velhart]

Go. Level. Archer. Or. CON. or THM.

TADA!

I am a tank, I don't need to.

EDIT: By the way, nice edit.

[DoctorMog]

I am a tank, I don't need to.

EDIT: By the way, nice edit.

Thanks, I felt it needed more spice.

Edit: But yeah, people need to put in work for the reward, its the simple of the whole debate.

Do work: get reward.

Hand holding needs to stop.