DPS
1.) War
2.) Drk
3.) Pld
How well they tank
1.) Pld
2.) Drk
3.) War
My prediction anyways
DPS
1.) War
2.) Drk
3.) Pld
How well they tank
1.) Pld
2.) Drk
3.) War
My prediction anyways
Have just started Dk but in terms of dps from what i have seen it can possibly take #1 spot (just my opinion)
How well they tank i would say
PLD
WAR
DK
@Maero - How would PLD ever top War / Drk is beyond me.
I'm pretty sure that War / Drk will roughly tie each other, with PLD bringing up the rear.
DPS as a MT PLD is bringing up the rear for sure. DPS as an OT is going to be really close. Goring blade combo is 920 pot and sword oath is still the biggest game changer.
Yeah, OT dps is going to be close or PLD on top again, but by a larger margin. They got a ton of potency, but the war's 5% buff, crit bonus and abandon attack are pretty hefty.
MT might even end up being DRK. Less damage penalty, 15% increase most all the time, and high potency.
Last edited by Rbstr; 06-21-2015 at 12:23 AM.
I get the feeling DRK would be top DPS MT. I suppose dropping Grit for Blood Weapon and other rotation-esque factors need to be decided first.
But the amount and frequency of oGCD attacks, with Low Blow having a Bloodletter like CD reducer gives an itch. DRK DPS is highest when taking hits.
Thinking PLD is somehow better than Warrior, either because of their stances (they're statistically unimportant, Defiance and Shield Oath break near par), or that Paladin has Bulwark as an additional CD (since their block is now matched by warrior's parry ability), is ridiculous.
IB is on demand, 20% damage reduction, so instead of having to blow a CD to get a 30% dmg reduction (on a single large hit, maybe two if the duration lasts long enough), warriors have it everytime whenever a big hit is coming, which we all know FFXIV tanking rotations revolved around big, predictable, mitigatable hits. What does that mean? It means good warriors have mitigation when they need it, where they need it, and aren't hampered by the limitations of a long cool down on a blanket duration defensive CD.
This whole garbage about tanking orders and tiers, WAR being the OT, PLD being the MT, needs to go. Its antiquated BS from release that died when 2.1 was released.
Bunch of green, amateur tanks.
Last edited by wonka11; 06-21-2015 at 05:23 AM.
PLD seems like it would be higher?
Goring blade and Royal Authority are rather high potency....and don't require a specific Oath
Fell Cleave requires 5 stacks...
If I recall PLD and WAR Dps wasn't really far apart
Last edited by Hundred; 06-21-2015 at 05:56 AM.
In tanking stance (defiance/shield oath) WAR was a clear winner and will continue to be so. (PLD vs WAR only)
WAR has unchained and Innerbeast which ignore the penalty as well as Maim which negates a good chunk of is. (damage up 20%)
PLD has nothing to counter Shield oath.
The old order for DPS was.
PLD SwO MT + WAR OT
WAR MT + PLD SwO OT
WAR + WAR
PLD SwO + PLD SwO
WAR Def + PLD SwO OT
WAR def + WAR OT
PLD ShO + WAR OT
PLD ShO + PLD OT
Fight or Flight, in Shield Oath, is a net gain of 4%.
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