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  1. #1
    Player
    Solduios's Avatar
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    Selrea Mandragoran
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70

    Tank DPS Ranking prediction.

    DPS
    1.) War
    2.) Drk
    3.) Pld

    How well they tank
    1.) Pld
    2.) Drk
    3.) War

    My prediction anyways
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  2. #2
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Have just started Dk but in terms of dps from what i have seen it can possibly take #1 spot (just my opinion)
    How well they tank i would say
    PLD
    WAR
    DK
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    Kalma Harbinger
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    @Maero - How would PLD ever top War / Drk is beyond me.

    I'm pretty sure that War / Drk will roughly tie each other, with PLD bringing up the rear.
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    DPS as a MT PLD is bringing up the rear for sure. DPS as an OT is going to be really close. Goring blade combo is 920 pot and sword oath is still the biggest game changer.
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    Robin Ster
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Yeah, OT dps is going to be close or PLD on top again, but by a larger margin. They got a ton of potency, but the war's 5% buff, crit bonus and abandon attack are pretty hefty.

    MT might even end up being DRK. Less damage penalty, 15% increase most all the time, and high potency.
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    Last edited by Rbstr; 06-21-2015 at 12:23 AM.

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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 73
    I get the feeling DRK would be top DPS MT. I suppose dropping Grit for Blood Weapon and other rotation-esque factors need to be decided first.

    But the amount and frequency of oGCD attacks, with Low Blow having a Bloodletter like CD reducer gives an itch. DRK DPS is highest when taking hits.
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    Furious George
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Thinking PLD is somehow better than Warrior, either because of their stances (they're statistically unimportant, Defiance and Shield Oath break near par), or that Paladin has Bulwark as an additional CD (since their block is now matched by warrior's parry ability), is ridiculous.

    IB is on demand, 20% damage reduction, so instead of having to blow a CD to get a 30% dmg reduction (on a single large hit, maybe two if the duration lasts long enough), warriors have it everytime whenever a big hit is coming, which we all know FFXIV tanking rotations revolved around big, predictable, mitigatable hits. What does that mean? It means good warriors have mitigation when they need it, where they need it, and aren't hampered by the limitations of a long cool down on a blanket duration defensive CD.

    This whole garbage about tanking orders and tiers, WAR being the OT, PLD being the MT, needs to go. Its antiquated BS from release that died when 2.1 was released.

    Bunch of green, amateur tanks.
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    Last edited by wonka11; 06-21-2015 at 05:23 AM.

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    Delcas Seven
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 81
    PLD seems like it would be higher?
    Goring blade and Royal Authority are rather high potency....and don't require a specific Oath
    Fell Cleave requires 5 stacks...

    If I recall PLD and WAR Dps wasn't really far apart
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    Last edited by Hundred; 06-21-2015 at 05:56 AM.

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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    In tanking stance (defiance/shield oath) WAR was a clear winner and will continue to be so. (PLD vs WAR only)

    WAR has unchained and Innerbeast which ignore the penalty as well as Maim which negates a good chunk of is. (damage up 20%)
    PLD has nothing to counter Shield oath.

    The old order for DPS was.

    PLD SwO MT + WAR OT
    WAR MT + PLD SwO OT
    WAR + WAR
    PLD SwO + PLD SwO
    WAR Def + PLD SwO OT
    WAR def + WAR OT
    PLD ShO + WAR OT
    PLD ShO + PLD OT
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Fight or Flight, in Shield Oath, is a net gain of 4%.
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