DPS
1.) War
2.) Drk
3.) Pld
How well they tank
1.) Pld
2.) Drk
3.) War
My prediction anyways

DPS
1.) War
2.) Drk
3.) Pld
How well they tank
1.) Pld
2.) Drk
3.) War
My prediction anyways


Have just started Dk but in terms of dps from what i have seen it can possibly take #1 spot (just my opinion)
How well they tank i would say
PLD
WAR
DK

@Maero - How would PLD ever top War / Drk is beyond me.
I'm pretty sure that War / Drk will roughly tie each other, with PLD bringing up the rear.

If you read what Maero said he said PLD tops WAR/DRK in terms of TANKING, which I agree with, their mitigation is incredible.
He said that DRK might outrank WAR in terms of DPS, and he didnt even mention PLD in terms of DPS rankings for obvious reason.
But overall I agree with the OP for the rankings.
DPS
1.) War
2.) Drk
3.) Pld
Tanking ability
1.) Pld
2.) Drk
3.) War
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1560295/
Tanking is a job, DPSing is a science and Healing is an art.
If the Tank dies, it's the Healer's fault. If the Healer dies, it's the Tank's fault. If the DPS dies, it's their own damn fault.

I have lvl 53 bard and loving it, but think if dark is a more dps tank I'll give it a go!
DPS as a MT PLD is bringing up the rear for sure. DPS as an OT is going to be really close. Goring blade combo is 920 pot and sword oath is still the biggest game changer.


yeah but x2 Fell Cleave under berserk, deliverance, internal release, maim and maybe the new drg party buff is 1000 potency in just 5 seconds not including slashing debuff. War will still be the preferred ot due to having storms eye/path and has tp regen now, but until we get some numbers at optimal gear we won't know for sure. That being said I'm constantly crit-ing for 1.5k as drk with darkside, dark arts, souleater and i'm nly 52 atm.
Yeah, OT dps is going to be close or PLD on top again, but by a larger margin. They got a ton of potency, but the war's 5% buff, crit bonus and abandon attack are pretty hefty.
MT might even end up being DRK. Less damage penalty, 15% increase most all the time, and high potency.
Last edited by Rbstr; 06-21-2015 at 12:23 AM.


I get the feeling DRK would be top DPS MT. I suppose dropping Grit for Blood Weapon and other rotation-esque factors need to be decided first.
But the amount and frequency of oGCD attacks, with Low Blow having a Bloodletter like CD reducer gives an itch. DRK DPS is highest when taking hits.

Thinking PLD is somehow better than Warrior, either because of their stances (they're statistically unimportant, Defiance and Shield Oath break near par), or that Paladin has Bulwark as an additional CD (since their block is now matched by warrior's parry ability), is ridiculous.
IB is on demand, 20% damage reduction, so instead of having to blow a CD to get a 30% dmg reduction (on a single large hit, maybe two if the duration lasts long enough), warriors have it everytime whenever a big hit is coming, which we all know FFXIV tanking rotations revolved around big, predictable, mitigatable hits. What does that mean? It means good warriors have mitigation when they need it, where they need it, and aren't hampered by the limitations of a long cool down on a blanket duration defensive CD.
This whole garbage about tanking orders and tiers, WAR being the OT, PLD being the MT, needs to go. Its antiquated BS from release that died when 2.1 was released.
Bunch of green, amateur tanks.
Last edited by wonka11; 06-21-2015 at 05:23 AM.
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