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  1. #1751
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    Akashiya's Avatar
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    Akane Akashiya
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 50
    Getting reports from people that you can use shoulder tackle up close now
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  2. #1752
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    Gageuu Rageuu
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    Odin
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    Yep can confirm. It's weird haha.
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  3. #1753
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    Black Elements
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    Exactly. Losing out on 1 tick of Demo is 40 potency... That's not worth waiting for.

    I think someone did some math on Tornado Kick in Reddit, and that person got an increase of potency by using TK without PB even, if used at the right time... Not sure if that is really the case, but if you're using PB, then it certainly is a DPS boost. Don't think we're talking anything huge here though, which is kinda the problem I have with this new potency instead of 500...
    At the france expo, TK was a 500 potency which is what that math was based off. The dps increase worked out to be ~1-200 potency. However, now its been lowered to 330 potency, that makes it a 100% loss if you use it without PB during combat. As for doing it with PB available, someone else would have to do that math, I'm too lazy..
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  4. #1754
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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akashiya View Post
    Getting reports from people that you can use shoulder tackle up close now
    Yeah there's no minimum range anymore. The skill description is still outdated though.
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  5. #1755
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    So they changed the timing in which the GL stack is applied on Demo. It applies right when you use it now instead of giving you the late refresh.
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  6. #1756
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    Louis Victor
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    i just tested internal release and it really doesn't affect the crit damage just as most of us suspected/assumed. (i did bootshines with and without IR and its roughly the same)
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  7. #1757
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Yea internal release ups your rate. Say if i have 600 Crit before I pop IR. I pop it and I still have 600. it wont effect it. Now if it went from 600 to 750 you would see the difference. It actually has to make the stat increase on the stat menu. That's why Selene's buff got nerfed from 30% to 3 because it increase the stat by 30%
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  8. #1758
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    So now ST dint have a range we can weave this in our rotation. Very nice. So any tested chair yet and how we can fully use it?
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  9. #1759
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    So now ST dint have a range we can weave this in our rotation. Very nice. So any tested chair yet and how we can fully use it?
    Outside of needing to save it for a mechanic recovery you just use it on CD like the other oGCDs. So it'll just be a learning game in regard to bosses.

    Also, and it might just be me, but it looked like the animation lock on Shoulder Tackle was lowered just a bit. I only got a test for about 30 minutes before work this morning, but I didn't notice the usual delay on being able to use a GCD after using Shoulder Tackle. Maybe someone else can confirm since I'm going to be at work all day.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 06-20-2015 at 12:26 AM.

  10. #1760
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Yeah I notice that as well. I testing the usual PB opener and I was able to move right after ST.
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