New War/Pld Skill tooltips

[Sapphidia]

the wording of clemency confuses me

Unless it's completely wrong, Clemency seems to be a 3 second cast time heal that has a hugely high Heal Potency (but will probably only be like a regular Cure for a WHM due to a paladin's low Mind stat). It costs a lot of mana, and you can cast it on anyone. If the person you cast it on is in your party, then you the paladin also get a bonus self heal equal to 50% of the amount you healed the target for. The only reference that springs to mind is Taric's heal from League of Legends which does the same thing.

The 3 second cast time will probably make it worthless when MTing, but as an Offtank you can cast a heal for, say, 1000 health on the MT, and it will also heal you for 500 health. Question is whether this 50% bonus counts if you heal yourself, for 150% total.

That said, high mana cost and 3 second cast time really will limit this to being cast rarely I think, maybe even less than Stoneskin crossclassed is now.

[Marxam]

Unless it's completely wrong... That said, high mana cost and 3 second cast time really will limit this to being cast rarely I think, maybe even less than Stoneskin crossclassed is now.

The tooltip in the op says it has a tp cost but it could be wrong. If it's tp, which makes no sense to me it would seriously reduce its use to emergency situations only i.e healer low on hp and other is dead. If it's mp then its not really a big deal since mp is never an issue for PLD's who know how to manage it and shelltron restores mp every 30 seconds.

[Casper]

The tp cost on the site it is taken of is just inacurate in a lot of cases. It is an mp cost here (and a hefty one).

Also regarding potency of the heals: currently second wind on a tank healed for about 1k ish hp, with 650 potency. Both war and pld heals looks like they are going to be around 2k hp by our current standard. Not too shabby, nothing game breaking either. Pld going 2k heal on a member + 1k self heal is definitely way better than their current lol 10% stoneskin. War will probably just use it for tp... i know i will

[Sapphidia]

If it's mp then its not really a big deal since mp is never an issue for PLD's who know how to manage it and shelltron restores mp every 30 seconds.

Sheltron seems to require the attack to be blocked, which means it only restores mana if you're actually tanking and being attacked. Clemency seems to be a skill you only ever really use when you're not actively being attacked due to the 3 second cast time, so you'll be limited to Riotblade for MP regain.

The main thing I meant with the limit of the high mana cost though is that you're not going to be able to chain spam this skill after doing a tank swap as you'll probably be out of mana after 2-3 casts and need to go back to riot blading. All conjecture at least until we see it in action, but it feels like Clemency is going to be one of those rare situational things you cast once or twice a fight at the absolute maximum, rather than a way for a Paladin to contribute meaningful HPS output.

[Virin]

Pld gets a 1200 pot heal that becomes a 600 pot self heal... I may not switch to dark with pld changes.

[Virin]

Also... 3 sec cast is not a big deal. Think of all the spell speed buffs with ast and sch making that faster... Then in all honesty since enmity isn't a big deal to keep as the mt throwing a heal here and there to dps or healers So they can focus you or dps isn't that hard. Not like pld dps as mt will really suffer if we weave in casts.