Two reasons why an eviction system is INEVITABLE.

[Kataz]

Right, so you let us know when you land that job at SE that allows you to put all of your (lol) experience to good use determining which accounts own houses and their percentage of likeliness to return to the game. I'll stand by my statement that its too early to determine a lost customer or not.

'It's the same thing as SE's plan for more retainers and inventory space: rather than fix the problem, just let those affected pay their way out of it."
Yes, it is the same thing. It's almost like its a function that works as they intended! User inventories take up space the same as houses do. If players want more space, they should pay more money. Amazing how that works out! You and I can go back and forth for quite a while on micro transactions I imagine. I am not a fan of them. But its what the gaming industry is doing now. Accept it, or stop playing todays new fangled video kerjiggers. If premium plots is a solution that makes SE and Madjames happy, then its a better solution than pissing off any returning player who is now homeless.

[Kaiser-Ace]

I dont know about any one else but even now that im leveling crafting I dont have an inventory issue. Sounds to me like some people just like hording junk they dont nees in which I aplore SE taking advantage of that by bleeding an extra 2usd per retainer per month out of them.

As for the bs meter, Im afraid you win the Golden Potato award Intaki, for being the saltiest person on this forum and the golden mop award for spounting the most total BS in a single thread.

[Kataz]

I am indeed guilty of hording a lot of junk I don't need. I've leveled everything except pld, so I have a lot of gear. I've collected and held on to all the gear I might someday want to glamour and because a while back I heard something about SE putting in a different armory system where you could store entire collections of gear and learn the history behind the pieces. So I saved pieces for that too, don't think thats ever going to be a thing though.

If and I think its a big if, Intaki did work in customer database retention and subscription services, I'll say its a good thing they didn't also work in customer service and PR because everything they say does indeed have a salty uncalled for sting. I meter software usage against a database of 40,000 users to determine if volume licensing is being sufficiently used. That doesn't mean I can determine the likeliness of a user wanting to use a license 3 months from now based on the fact that they haven't used it for the last 4 months. Maybe if they had included which gaming company they worked for and which MMO they parsed data for I would be more impressed. Otherwise, it sounded like they wanted to know what I base my "player base levels off around the 2nd or 3rd expansion" comment on and I think I addressed that pretty well.

Intaki did succeed in getting this so far off the topic of FAIR and PRACTICAL housing solutions though, so bravo to them for that. This thread is now pretty pointless.

Evictions wont happen. Think of something else.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Im really leaning towards ourr colaberative idea if premium housing Kataz.

It would have levels of risk to them but imo nothing unacceptable.

Make them alot more customizable inside and out and even a few extra perks like a heavy discount on construction items and other housing items from npcs (ballenced by items bought for said discount being untradable), and a few other superficial perks here and there.

That actually sounds like an everybody wins solution to me.

[StouterTaru]

Housing is content by the literal definition of the word. Anything in the game is content of the game.

If that's true then it invalidates the argument of people running out of content and unsubbing until the next patch.

[Yeldir]

Thread awards? What a wonderful idea, Ace!

Intaki, I hereby award you with "The Golden Crowbar". I'm sure you'll work out what it means immediately, or shortly.

As for the rest of you, nice to see you all again. And new people! I especially can't wait to talk to that lofty fellow who smugly assures us that the arguments here are irrelevant because eviction can't possibly happen.

Well... I meant, I can't wait to talk to him in a month, when people with a house are flying in exclusive crafting materials from their airship gathering missions, and this forum explodes with complaints by the overwhelming majority of homeless players - the sheer volume of which will drown everything else out. Yes. He's going to be fun to talk to, then.

[StouterTaru]

Well... I meant, I can't wait to talk to him in a month, when people with a house are flying in exclusive crafting materials from their airship gathering missions, and this forum explodes with complaints by the overwhelming majority of homeless players - the sheer volume of which will drown everything else out. Yes. He's going to be fun to talk to, then.

You mean when the playerbase realizes that all FC airships give you is exclusive glamour crafting materials, exclusive airship part materials, generic items, and come 3.1 fights that give those same three things plus exclusive minions and glamours? They are going to be the equivalent of DoH treasure maps.

[Kaiser-Ace]

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HeybYeldirngood to see you're still lurking around your post.

What'd you think of yhe Subscripton based Primium Houseing idea a fewnof us came up with?

[Intaki]

Maybe if they had included which gaming company they worked for and which MMO they parsed data for I would be more impressed.

You realize the methods I stated go far beyond just MMOs, yes? Determining user trends in products that can track user stats is something almost all large, successful corporations use to inform marketing strategies.

Your comment about expansions and player population is so far off the mark of what I am actually discussing I don't even know how to address it.

As for your premium houses: they need to be bigger and better, with more facilities and more content than regular housing. Then again, I have a feeling that's not what you want. No, I bet you'd throw a hissy fit if that got implemented.

[Kaiser-Ace]

As for your premium houses: they need to be bigger and better, with more facilities and more content than regular housing. Then again, I have a feeling that's not what you want. No, I bet you'd throw a hissy fit if that got implemented.

Actually Intaki, The Primium Housing colaberative is primarily my idea and that's exactly what I was sugesting. I've played MMOs before with "Free" (read in game money) housing and "Primium" (read real money) housing and the primiums are always more extravigant, offer more item slots, and typically have some exclusive features that free housing dosent. After all, since I suppose you support the idea, would you pay real money for the exact se thing people can get for free?