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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    you egoistical selfish People
    You can use the selfish argument for anyone that wants anything, yourself included.

    I call BS on your hypothetical entire FC that clears content in a month then unsubs for 6 months because there is nothing to do, while at the same time cares deeply about a glamour system.
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  2. #62
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorlinta View Post
    For a small house in my server and with the price halved by the timer... took me 3 weeks of hard work and selling all my stored precious quest jewels rewards. Also took a small loan from fc friends to can buy the build permisson wich i paid after one week more of work.
    A poor mans house? I see you took the easy answer to my question.

    A medium house will take a few months worth of saving (depending on how often you play, and how well you know your markets) to be able to afford.
    Thats not getting into mansions or decapricated houses.


    In other words, to answer my own question: it takes far longer (and more effort) to obtain the funds for buying a house, then this oft proposed ''30 day release''.
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You can use the selfish argument for anyone that wants anything, yourself included.

    I call BS on your hypothetical entire FC that clears content in a month then unsubs for 6 months because there is nothing to do, while at the same time cares deeply about a glamour system.
    Leaving an mmo for a period of time after clearing all current content is quite common. Certainly for more then >30 days.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 06-18-2015 at 02:59 AM.

  3. #63
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    Spacekataz Skyentist
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    Hypie - your scenario is somewhat unlikely unless your FC is just you and 7 friends. My current FC has 65 active players in it, all 65 aren't going to unsub at the same time. If you and 7 friends all did unsub at the same time and your FC was just the 8 of you, there could still be systems in place to flag your FC as active. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a FC leader doesn't log in for 30 days, leadership passes down the chain, right? If FC leadership has no other member to trickle down to, that FC can be pretty well classified as dead. There could also be something like a seal tax like I mentioned several posts ago. A dead FC wont be generating company seals, and if a small tax were collected each month, eventually the very very dead FC's would be weeded out. Last I looked, my medium sized FC had something like 18k seals, so our FC in theory could all unsub and be inactive for a very long time before we would be unable to pay some trivial little tax. That would be ample time for one of our many members to log in, or for a meaningful content patch to come out. There are a lot of metrics that can be used to measure the life of an FC, there should be a fair way of determining when one has died and freeing up a plot from it.
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  4. #64
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    Lil'bit Gnawdy
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You can use the selfish argument for anyone that wants anything, yourself included.

    I call BS on your hypothetical entire FC that clears content in a month then unsubs for 6 months because there is nothing to do, while at the same time cares deeply about a glamour system.
    While I'm not defending Hypie by any means, FCs like that do exist. Many are previously WoW players, finish content, switch to another game, come back for the next patch.
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    Dante Venarra
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    Sounds like a lot of speculation. There are no plans to strip anyone's houses at all and people who are on servers with no available housing will have to wait until the next housing update to get theirs.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    While I'm not defending Hypie by any means, FCs like that do exist. Many are previously WoW players, finish content, switch to another game, come back for the next patch.
    Housing isn't content, it's convoluted glamour.
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  7. #67
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    Housing is content by the literal definition of the word. Anything in the game is content of the game.
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  8. #68
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    <Switches to Botonist>
    Hang on, Im going to grab some potatos. There's to much salt in this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kataz View Post
    especially when they expect or hope for players to stay with their game for the next 8 years.
    How does penalizing presently subscribed players for the benefit of unsubbed house owners contribute to this goal? Why should the sub dollars of players without houses be spent on improving the experience of the minority of players who have them?
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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    How does penalizing presently subscribed players for the benefit of unsubbed house owners contribute to this goal?
    Uh, by not penalizing them when THEY get houses.

    Gods you people are blind. You dont fix a problem by making a new problem. Thats basic logic and resoning (formerly known as common sence).

    This problem will be fixed when SE figures out how to add enough for every one. One way I say is player to player brokering on plots. Then those asses that buy 5 plots opening day can actually sell them like they intended too.

    Oh yea, <Throws a potato at Intaki>, that's for your saltynees.
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