Holy and Flare diminishing returns nerf

[Verius_Nox]

It's true, though, Flare can be your whole pool. It can also be less than 300 mp.

Also, Flare has a potency of 468 with AF3. And it only goes down to 234 potency after the sixth target.

Pretty bad to use the lowest number, which requires the higher potencies to hit for that to even happen.
Then to say you use all your mp which could be as low as 270.

Thanks, Prima Strategy Guide, for telling me hitting start begins the game.

[Wobble]

Well honestly I don't care much about holy even though I'm WHM main. I could heal and spam holy but at times just wanted to straight heal. With the cost of it now I surely will not be spamming it.

[elemental10]

Thanks, Prima Strategy Guide, for telling me hitting start begins the game.

Now YOU'RE being an ass.

We get it, you don't like the nerf because you want to see big numbers on the screen and that's FINE. But the rest of us still see Flare as a very useful spell. Or at least I do.

[Allyrion]

Thanks, Prima Strategy Guide, for telling me hitting start begins the game.

No problem. Hopefully, you figure out how to play the game now.

Now YOU'RE being an ass.

We get it, you don't like the nerf because you want to see big numbers on the screen and that's FINE. But the rest of us still see Flare as a very useful spell. Or at least I do.

I'm holding off making any actual statements of the nerf myself.
His comparison is just completely disingenuous. It's beyond hyperbole.

[Verius_Nox]

Now YOU'RE being an ass.

We get it, you don't like the nerf because you want to see big numbers on the screen and that's FINE. But the rest of us still see Flare as a very useful spell. Or at least I do.

Fight fire with fire. Be a dick, and get it in return.

Also, I was agreeing with you on liking the spell. So not sure where your animosity is coming from.

[elemental10]

Fight fire with fire. Be a dick, and get it in return.

Oh I'm being a dick by saying what makes me casting Flare a reasonable action.

If you look back at my posts, none of my words weren't meant to mock or insult you in anyway. I simply present my opinion of what I think makes Flare a still valid spell.

[Miakisaki]

Holy was never meant to be spammed, it was intended as 'one and run', like Fluid Aura.

If Holy was never meant to be spammed it could have been given a recast time and/or a much lower overall potency. It wasn't, even after the initial nerf. Flare actually had a limitation and still ate the same DR nerf, which is why I feel a lot worse for black mages.

The spells were only used for repetitive grindy content rather than serious raiding or anything actually demanding. People who played the classes used them to make content move a little faster for everyone. Mages alone do not lose here, everyone loses here. Two iconic FF spells will be thrown aside and really never looked at again.

I don't really mind standing there while regen ticks pressing 1 button to heal every few moments, doing something else in the background. Would rather save everyone else time though.

[Verius_Nox]

Oh I'm being a dick by saying what makes me casting Flare a reasonable action.

If you look back at my posts, none of my words weren't meant to mock or insult you in anyway. I simply present my opinion of what I think makes Flare a still valid spell.

In case you missed my edit.

Also, I was agreeing with you on liking the spell. So not sure where your animosity is coming from.

[XgungraveX]

maybe will see a cut down on black mage bots

[Ninimo_Babamo]

maybe will see a cut down on black mage bots

Doubt it. I never see them spam anything other than blizzard 2.